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    'The Five' question media's credibility on new Russia bounty report

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    ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Dan: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE FOUND THEIR NEW RUSSIA SCANDAL PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE WHITE HOUSE DISPUTED REPORTS RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS OFFERED BOUNTIES TO TALIBAN LINKED MILITANTS TO KILL US TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN

    THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING THAT THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WERE NEVER BRIEFED ABOUT >> THERE IS NO CONSENSUS IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ALLEYS ALLEGATIONS AND THERE ARE DISSENTING OPINIONS FROM SOME IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH LOOKING TO THEIR VERACITY OF WHAT'S BEING REPORTED ON THE VERACITY OF THE UNDERLYING ALLEGATIONS CONTINUE TO BE EVALUATED I WOULD POINT YOU TO THE ABSOLUTELY IRRESPONSIBLE DECISION IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TO FALSELY REPORT THAT HE WAS BRIEFED ON SOMETHING THAT HE IN FACT WAS NOT BRIEFED ON >> Dan: OF COURSE DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING FOR INVESTIGATIONS, SINCE SPEAKER PELOSI IS HYPING A CONSPIRACY THEORY >> THIS IS AS BAD AS IT GETS AND YET THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT CONFRONT THE RUSSIANS ON THIS SCORE

    DENIES BEING GRIEVED WHETHER HE WAS OR NOT, HIS KNOWS ADMINISTRATION AS I HAVE SAID WITH THE PRESIDENT, WITH HIM, ALL ROADS LEAD TO PUTIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE ON THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY PERSONALLY, POLITICALLY, FINANCIALLY OR WHATEVER IT IS >> Dan: HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS LUCY FOOTBALL TRICK WITH THE RUSHING FOREIGN POLICY STORIES

    >> Jesse: AT LEAST THINGS ARE BACK TO NORMAL TRUMP IS GETTING ACCUSED OF BEING TO RUSSIAN AGENT I GUESS THINGS ARE STARTING TO LOOK LIKE THEY USED TO HERE'S WHAT THEY DO IT'S SO WELL SCRIPTED AND ORCHESTRATED INTELLIGENCE LEAK TO DO TWO THINGS

    ONE, WHEN YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF HEATER IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY THAT TAKES A PIECE OF RAW, UNVERIFIED INTELLIGENCE THAT NO ONE IS AGREED UPON HIS TROOP AND THEN THEY LEAK IT TO A "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTER AND THEN SPIN IT AND LIE ABOUT THE BACK OF THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN BRIEFED ON IT TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT LOOK WEAK AGAINST RUSSIA OR THE FACT THAT RUSSIA HAS SOMETHING ON HIM SO IT CREATES THIS RUSSIAN CLOUD AROUND THE PRESIDENT THAT'S THE FIRST THING THE SECOND THING IT ACCOMPLISHES IS IT KEEPS THE PRESIDENT TIED DOWN IN AFGHANISTAN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT THE UNITED STATES TO STAY IN AFGHANISTAN

    THE RUSSIANS WANT THE UNITED STATES TO STAY TIED DOWN IN AFGHANISTAN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN, ARMS CONTRACTORS, A LOT OF IDEOLOGISTS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE FOREIGN POLICY COMMUNITY, THEY WANT US IN AFGHANISTAN THE TALIBAN HASN'T ATTACKED US SOLDIERS SINCE FEBRUARY SINCE THAT SO-CALLED TRUCE WAS SIGNED IT KEEPS THE POST-COLD WAR ORDER TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY PROSPEROUS AND THE LINE IS CLEARLY DRAWN

    >> Dan: I'M CONFUSED >> Jesse: IT'S JUST ANOTHER LIE >> Capri: I'M SUPPOSED TO GET >> Capri: I'M SUPPOSED TO GET YOU UN-CONFUSED? >> Dan: THE STORY APPEARS TO BE FAKE NOT THAT THE RUSSIANS PAID THE TALIBAN BUT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS BRIEFED WHERE WAS THE MEDIA OUTRAGE WHEN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY DID PAY THE "DEATH TO AMERICA "IRANIANS? THE MEDIA LOSES CREDIBILITY WHEN THEY DO THAT

    >> Capri: THERE'S PLENTY OF OUTRAGE CERTAINLY FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE STILL MAD ABOUT THE IRAN DEAL I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE MEDIA THE PROBLEM FRANKLY IS THAT OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE NOT TRUSTED AND THEY ARE BROKEN AND THEY ARE BROKEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT MEDIA AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CRACKS – THE FOUNDATIONS OF OUR SYSTEM THIS IS OBVIOUSLY INCREDIBLY SERIOUS IF THERE'S ANY TRUTH TO WHAT RUSSIA HAS DONE, IT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED

    IT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED IT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON AND WE NEED TO ACT APPROPRIATELY AS A NATION AND TREAT RUSSIA AS AN ADVERSARY BECAUSE OUR TROOPS SHOULD NEVER BE PUT IN HARM'S WAY THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE IN BOUNTY ON THEIR HEADS GOAL HERE'S THE THING, WE DON'T KNOW 100% WE NEED TO NOT JUMP TO WHETHER IT'S CONCLUSIONS DEMOCRATS JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS ON THE MEDIA JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS AND WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT UNDERMINING THE INSTITUTIONS

    NOW WE SEE THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HASN'T VERIFIED THIS OR IT'S CONFLICTING STATEMENTS GOAL WE'VE ALSO SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP PREVIOUSLY NOT TRUST THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY SO DO WE TRUST THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY OR NOT? FRANKLY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS CONSUMING THIS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE SEE SUCH A DIVIDED NATION >> Dan: THERE IS NOTHING TO TRUST HE WASN'T BRIEFED, ACCORDING TO THE STORY DANA, YOU HAVE BEEN THE FACE OF THE WHITE HOUSE AT THE PODIUM

    HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VOLUME OF INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY LEAKS LIKE YOU HAVE UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION? IT'S OUTRAGEOUS >> Dana: YOU KIND OF LOSE TRACK BUT I AM DEFINITELY OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WITH THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE CAME OUT AROUND 2007 AND THERE WAS A FOOTNOTE THAT SUGGESTED THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE POSITION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS THAT IRAN WAS NOT SEEKING TO TRY TO GIVE NUCLEAR WEAPON WHICH WAS NOT TRUE DAN, WE WENT TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO MEET WITH WORLD LEADERS TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WASN'T OUR POSITION THAT'S HOW BAD BACK KIND OF THING CAN BE WHEN I FIRST SAW THE STORY, I THOUGHT THREE THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME

    NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT PUTIN WOULD DO THIS AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN AFGHANISTAN WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROXY WAR WITH RUSSIA ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT FRAUD WE'LL MEMBER WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IN SYRIA A YEAR OR SO AGO THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDER THAT MISSION THE SECOND THING THAT COULD ALSO BE TRUE IS THAT THIS IS NOT VERIFIED OR THAT ONE PERSON HEARD SOMETHING IN ANOTHER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY IS NOT REALLY SURE, THERE'S CONFLICTING INFORMATION, AND SO YOU GET ONE LEAK AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM THAT JESSE WAS POINTING OUT

    THE THIRD THING THEY CAN BE TRUE IS THAT POLITICALLY THE DEMOCRATS WILL PICK THIS UP AND RUN WITH IT THEY ALREADY HAVE ADS OUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE TRUE WITH THE SAME TIME AND I THINK THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS RIGHT TO DO THE BRIEFINGS THEY HAD MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THERE TODAY, REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS STENY HOYER, THE DEMOCRAT FOR – FROM MARYLAND, HE WILL TAKE FOLKS TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PRESIDENT WASN'T BRIEFED AND THAT IS BEARING OUT TODAY

    >> Dan: EMILY, YOUR THOUGHTS >> Emily: IC TWO ISSUES ONE IS WHETHER THE PRESIDENT WAS BRIEFED OR NOT AND THE CREDIBILITY OF SINGLE SOURCE REPORTING THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FULL AND INTELLIGENCE PRODUCTS AND SINGULAR OPERATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND SINGLE FORCE REPORTING AND IF SOMETHING IS PUT IN FRONT OF THE PRESIDENT OR THE NSA, IT'S A FINISHED PRODUCT INTELLIGENCE THAT MEANS THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF ANALYTICAL MANPOWER AND EXHAUSTIVE HORSEPOWER PUT INTO THAT THING BEFORE IT ROSE TO THAT LEVEL

    SINGULAR OPERATIONAL OR SINGLE SOURCE REPORTS ALWAYS RAISE VERIFICATION AND CREDIBILITY QUESTIONS, INCLUDING WHAT TINA OUT POINTS, WHO OR WHAT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM AGITATION TO CAPRIS POINT, I THINK WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AS AMERICANS THAT TRUMP DOES HAVE A BIT OF SENSITIVITY WITH ESPECIALLY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY PERHAPS HE WASN'T BRIEFED IF THEY THOUGHT HE WON'T BELIEVE US ANYWAY OR WILL WAIT AND THERE'S

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