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A FAIR JUROR HERE >> IS IT APPROPRIATE TO BE >> IS IT APPROPRIATE TO BE VOICING YOUR OPINION EVEN BEFORE VOICING YOUR OPINION EVEN BEFORE THIS GETS TO THE SENATE AS A THIS GETS TO THE SENATE AS A TRIAL? TRIAL? >> WELL, I MUST THINK SO BECAUSE >> WELL, I MUST THINK SO BECAUSE I’M DOING IT

I’M DOING IT >> LET’S BRING IN RIGHT NOW >> LET’S BRING IN RIGHT NOW SENATE MAJORITY MINORITY LEADER SENATE MAJORITY MINORITY LEADER DEMOCRAT CHUCK SCHUMER OF NEW DEMOCRAT CHUCK SCHUMER OF NEW YORK AND SENATOR YORK AND SENATOR >> GOOD MORNING >> GOOD MORNING

GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING >> GOOD MORNING >> GOOD MORNING OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU SEE LINDSEY OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU SEE LINDSEY GRAHAM THERE YOU’RE NOT TALKING GRAHAM THERE YOU’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BACK VENTURE THAT IS ABOUT A BACK VENTURE THAT IS SAYING THAT HE’S — HE’S GOING SAYING THAT HE’S — HE’S GOING TO VOTE THE WAY HE’S GOING TO TO VOTE THE WAY HE’S GOING TO VOTE BEFORE HE SEES THE FIRST VOTE BEFORE HE SEES THE FIRST BIT OF EVIDENCE

BIT OF EVIDENCE AND OBVIOUSLY A MASSIVE AND OBVIOUSLY A MASSIVE HYPOCRITE BY JUST JUDGE HIM ON HYPOCRITE BY JUST JUDGE HIM ON THE TWO CLIPS THE TWO CLIPS YOU HAVE THE THE SENATE YOU HAVE THE THE SENATE JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN, HOW LOW OF A JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN, HOW LOW OF A POINT IS THIS FOR THAT COMMITTEE POINT IS THIS FOR THAT COMMITTEE THAT THEIR CHAIRMAN IS SINKING THAT THEIR CHAIRMAN IS SINKING TO SUCH DEPTHS? TO SUCH DEPTHS? >> LOOK, I THINK HIS COMMENTS >> LOOK, I THINK HIS COMMENTS DEMEAN HIM DEMEAN HIM

IT SAYS FAR MORE ABOUT LINDSEY IT SAYS FAR MORE ABOUT LINDSEY GRAHAM THAN ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GRAHAM THAN ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TRIAL TRIAL AND LINDSEY SHOULD REMEMBER, AND AND LINDSEY SHOULD REMEMBER, AND HE KNOWS DARN WELL THIS IS A HE KNOWS DARN WELL THIS IS A SERIOUS AND SOLEMN OBLIGATION SERIOUS AND SOLEMN OBLIGATION THE CHARGES AGAINST THE THE CHARGES AGAINST THE PRESIDENT THAT THE HOUSE HAS PUT PRESIDENT THAT THE HOUSE HAS PUT TOGETHER ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS

TOGETHER ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS AND TO SAY YOU WON’T LOOK AT THE AND TO SAY YOU WON’T LOOK AT THE FACTS, LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE FACTS, LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE MAKES NO SENSE MAKES NO SENSE WE WANT THE FACTS TO COME OUT WE WANT THE FACTS TO COME OUT

WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE A DILATORY WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE A DILATORY TRIAL TRIAL WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE A BIASED WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE A BIASED TRIAL TRIAL WE DON’T WANT A TRIAL WHERE WE DON’T WANT A TRIAL WHERE EXTRANEOUS ISSUES OF THEIR SIDE EXTRANEOUS ISSUES OF THEIR SIDE OR OUR SIDE ARE BROUGHT IN

OR OUR SIDE ARE BROUGHT IN WHAT WE’VE ASKED FOR THIS WHAT WE’VE ASKED FOR THIS MORNING IS REALLY GUIDED BY JOE MORNING IS REALLY GUIDED BY JOE FRIDAY FROM DRAG NET FOR THOSE FRIDAY FROM DRAG NET FOR THOSE WHO REMEMBER HIM, JUST THE WHO REMEMBER HIM, JUST THE FACTS, MA’AM FACTS, MA’AM AND THAT’S WHAT WE WANT AND THAT’S WHAT WE WANT

THE FACTS THE FACTS THE FOUR WITNESSES WE’VE ASKED THE FOUR WITNESSES WE’VE ASKED FOR ARE THE DOCUMENTS WE’VE FOR ARE THE DOCUMENTS WE’VE ASKED FOR ARE DIRECTLY ASKED FOR ARE DIRECTLY DISPOSITIVE ON WHAT THE ACTUAL DISPOSITIVE ON WHAT THE ACTUAL FACTS WERE FACTS WERE NOW, THE HOUSE CAME UP WITH A NOW, THE HOUSE CAME UP WITH A WHOLE LOT, BUT THERE’S SOME OF WHOLE LOT, BUT THERE’S SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO SAY MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO SAY THESE CHARGES ARE SERIOUS BUT THESE CHARGES ARE SERIOUS BUT I’M NOT SURE THERE’S ENOUGH TO I’M NOT SURE THERE’S ENOUGH TO EVIDENCE

EVIDENCE THAT’S WHY THESE PEOPLE SHOULD THAT’S WHY THESE PEOPLE SHOULD COME COME I HOPE THIS LETTER I’VE SENT NOW I HOPE THIS LETTER I’VE SENT NOW TO EVERY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, TO EVERY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, I HOPE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, I HOPE SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WILL SAY, IN ALL FAIRNESS, WE WILL SAY, IN ALL FAIRNESS, WE OUGHT TO HEAR THESE PEOPLE OUGHT TO HEAR THESE PEOPLE

THERE’S NOT A SINGLE REASON THAT THERE’S NOT A SINGLE REASON THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN WHY THE FOUR HAS BEEN GIVEN WHY THE FOUR WITNESSES WE’VE ASKED FOR, WHITE WITNESSES WE’VE ASKED FOR, WHITE DOCUMENTS WE’VE ASKED FOR SHOULD DOCUMENTS WE’VE ASKED FOR SHOULD NOT BE PRESENTED NOT BE PRESENTED I DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’LL SAY I DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’LL SAY MAYBE THEY’LL BE EXCULPATORY TO MAYBE THEY’LL BE EXCULPATORY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP

PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT TO NOT HAVE THEM IS TO BUT TO NOT HAVE THEM IS TO ENGAGE IN A COVER-UP ENGAGE IN A COVER-UP IS TO SAY WE’RE AFRAID AND THE IS TO SAY WE’RE AFRAID AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL ASK OF AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL ASK OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PEOPLE LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PEOPLE LIKE MITCH McCONNELL IF HE DOESN’T MITCH McCONNELL IF HE DOESN’T HAVE A FULL AND FAIR TRIAL, WHAT HAVE A FULL AND FAIR TRIAL, WHAT ARE YOU HIDE SOMETHING WHAT ARE ARE YOU HIDE SOMETHING WHAT ARE YOU HIDING? YOU HIDING? >> YOU KNOW, MITCH McCONNELL >> YOU KNOW, MITCH McCONNELL OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO HAVE THE OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO HAVE THE NO-SHOW TRIAL NO-SHOW TRIAL

HE WANTS TO MAKE IT AS FAST AS HE WANTS TO MAKE IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE POSSIBLE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WANTS A SHOW BIZ TRIAL, STATES WANTS A SHOW BIZ TRIAL, ACCORDING TO JONATHAN LEMIRE, ACCORDING TO JONATHAN LEMIRE, WANTS THIS THING TO BE DRAGGED WANTS THIS THING TO BE DRAGGED OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF COMMON IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF COMMON GROUND BETWEEN YOU AND THE GROUND BETWEEN YOU AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ON MAKING THIS TRIAL LONGER SO ON MAKING THIS TRIAL LONGER SO ACTUALLY WE CAN GET ALL THE ACTUALLY WE CAN GET ALL THE FACTS? FACTS? >> WELL, WE DON’T WANT IT >> WELL, WE DON’T WANT IT DILATORY AND WE DON’T WANT ALL DILATORY AND WE DON’T WANT ALL THESE SHINY OBJECT EXTRANEOUS THESE SHINY OBJECT EXTRANEOUS ISSUES CONSPIRACY THEORIES

ISSUES CONSPIRACY THEORIES IT LINDSEY GRAHAM WANTS TO IT LINDSEY GRAHAM WANTS TO PURSUE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, CAN PURSUE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, CAN HE DO THAT IN THE JUDICIARY HE DO THAT IN THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE IF DOES HE IT HERE, HE DEMEANS IF DOES HE IT HERE, HE DEMEANS THE SENATE, HE DEMEANS THE THE SENATE, HE DEMEANS THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEY’RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE, THEY’RE ONE OF THE JUDGES JUDGES

ARE THESE SENATORS, DEMOCRAT AND ARE THESE SENATORS, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, LOOKING FOR THE REPUBLICAN, LOOKING FOR THE FACTS AND LOOKING FOR FAIRNESS FACTS AND LOOKING FOR FAIRNESS OR ARE THEY TRYING TO DIVERT, OR ARE THEY TRYING TO DIVERT, ARE THEY TRYING TO COVER UP? ARE THEY TRYING TO COVER UP? THAT’S A FUNDAMENTAL DECISION THAT’S A FUNDAMENTAL DECISION THAT EVERY SENATOR MUST ASK HIM THAT EVERY SENATOR MUST ASK HIM OR HERSELF OR HERSELF >> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE >> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VIR TO GET YOUR, AMERICAN PEOPLE VIR TO GET YOUR, YOUR NUMBERS THAT WE’VE BEEN YOUR NUMBERS THAT WE’VE BEEN GOING OVER THIS MORNING GOING OVER THIS MORNING 54% OF AMERICANS WANT HIM ETCH 54% OF AMERICANS WANT HIM ETCH PEECHD AND PEECHD AND IMPEACHED

IMPEACHED 53% TO 38% BELIEVE HE WAS GUILTY 53% TO 38% BELIEVE HE WAS GUILTY OF ABUSING THE POWERS OF HIS OF ABUSING THE POWERS OF HIS OFFICE OFFICE 50% TO 37%, AGAIN, ANOTHER 50% TO 37%, AGAIN, ANOTHER MAJORITY, BELIEVE HE WAS GUILTY MAJORITY, BELIEVE HE WAS GUILTY OF OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE OF OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE

AND THE GET THIS, A CLEAR PLURAL AND THE GET THIS, A CLEAR PLURAL ALT, 35% TO 47% OF VOTERS SAY ALT, 35% TO 47% OF VOTERS SAY DONALD TRUMP WAS GUILTY OF DONALD TRUMP WAS GUILTY OF BRIBERY BRIBERY WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? >> WELL, MY RHODE ISLANDE-ELECTI >> WELL, MY RHODE ISLANDE-ELECTI THE ELECTION HAD WHAT WE TRIED THE ELECTION HAD WHAT WE TRIED TO PUT FORWARD WAS SOMETHING TO PUT FORWARD WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS FAIR, THAT GOT ALL THE THAT WAS FAIR, THAT GOT ALL THE FACTS OUT, THAT HONED IN ON FACTS OUT, THAT HONED IN ON WITNESS WHO’S HAVE DIRECT WITNESS WHO’S HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THESE CHARGES KNOWLEDGE OF THESE CHARGES AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THEY SHOULD COME OUT

AND THEY SHOULD COME OUT YOU KNOW, JOE, I WAS VERY MOVED YOU KNOW, JOE, I WAS VERY MOVED BY THOSE SEVEN CONGRESS MEMBERS, BY THOSE SEVEN CONGRESS MEMBERS, ALL OF WHOM HAVE SERVED IN THE ALL OF WHOM HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY OR CIA, ALL OF WHOM HAD MILITARY OR CIA, ALL OF WHOM HAD WHO HAD BEEN IN DISTRICTS THAT WHO HAD BEEN IN DISTRICTS THAT TRUMP HAD WON AND SOME OF WHOM TRUMP HAD WON AND SOME OF WHOM THOUGHT THEY MIGHT LOSE THEIR THOUGHT THEY MIGHT LOSE THEIR RE-ELECTION IF THEY CALLED FOR RE-ELECTION IF THEY CALLED FOR IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT BUT THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A BUT THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A DUTY FOR THE CONGRESS, FOR THE DUTY FOR THE CONGRESS, FOR THE HOUSE TO GO FORWARD AND PURSUE HOUSE TO GO FORWARD AND PURSUE THIS INQUIRY THIS INQUIRY

THAT’S THE KIND OF TONE THERE THAT’S THE KIND OF TONE THERE OUGHT TO BE HERE OUGHT TO BE HERE AND I HOPE WE GET THE SAME AND I HOPE WE GET THE SAME MEASURED DEDICATION TO COUNTRY MEASURED DEDICATION TO COUNTRY FROM SOME OF OUR REPUBLICAN FROM SOME OF OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES COLLEAGUES THEY PRIVATELY EXPRESS CONCERN THEY PRIVATELY EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND WHAT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND WHAT HE’S DONE, WELL, WE’RE NOT HE’S DONE, WELL, WE’RE NOT ASKING THEM TO VOTE YES OR NO

ASKING THEM TO VOTE YES OR NO SHE SHOULDN’T DECIDE THAT YET SHE SHOULDN’T DECIDE THAT YET WE’RE ASKING THEM TO STAND UP WE’RE ASKING THEM TO STAND UP WITH US FOR A FAIR TRIAL WITH US FOR A FAIR TRIAL

YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN — THE YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN — THE EXPRESSION WE ALWAYS SAY, THE EXPRESSION WE ALWAYS SAY, THE AMERICANS ARE ENTITLED AND THE AMERICANS ARE ENTITLED AND THE PRESIDENT’S ENTITLED TO A FAIR PRESIDENT’S ENTITLED TO A FAIR AND SPEEDY TRIAL AND SPEEDY TRIAL NOT DILATORY, BALL THEUT ALL THE NOT DILATORY, BALL THEUT ALL THE MUST COME OUT MUST COME OUT NOT WHAT McCONNELL IS TALKING NOT WHAT McCONNELL IS TALKING ABOUT, YOU ARGUE, WE ARGUE AND ABOUT, YOU ARGUE, WE ARGUE AND PUT IT TO BED

PUT IT TO BED THESE WITNESSES ARE VITAL TO THESE WITNESSES ARE VITAL TO DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT HAS DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAND AND HAND AND HAPPENED AND TO SEE IF THE HAPPENED AND TO SEE IF THE HOUSE-STRONG CASE WILL HOLD UP HOUSE-STRONG CASE WILL HOLD UP >> SO I ASSUME THIS WEEK YOU’RE >> SO I ASSUME THIS WEEK YOU’RE GOING TO START NEGOTIATIONS WITH GOING TO START NEGOTIATIONS WITH McCONNELL ON THE SHAPE OF THE McCONNELL ON THE SHAPE OF THE TRIAL? TRIAL? >> TWO WEEKS AGO I WENT TO BE >> TWO WEEKS AGO I WENT TO BE McCONNELL AND SAID I’M WILLING McCONNELL AND SAID I’M WILLING TO START TALK ABOUT IT TO START TALK ABOUT IT

HE DIDN’T TALK TO ME HE DIDN’T TALK TO ME HE DIDN’T ASK TO TALK TO ME HE DIDN’T ASK TO TALK TO ME THEN HE STARTS SPINNING OUT HIS THEN HE STARTS SPINNING OUT HIS OWN THEORIES TALKING TO THE OWN THEORIES TALKING TO THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND SAYING REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND SAYING HE’S GOING TO DO JUST WHAT THE HE’S GOING TO DO JUST WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS

PRESIDENT WANTS SO WE PUT THIS OUT SO WE COULD SO WE PUT THIS OUT SO WE COULD SET UP THE GROUND RULES FOR A SET UP THE GROUND RULES FOR A FAIR DISCUSSION FAIR DISCUSSION I HOPE NOW HE WILL TALK TO ME I HOPE NOW HE WILL TALK TO ME

HE SAID THAT YESTERDAY AFTER WE HE SAID THAT YESTERDAY AFTER WE PUT THOUGHT REPORT PUT THOUGHT REPORT AND I HOPE WE CAN COME TO AN AND I HOPE WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ABOUT A FAIR TRIAL AGREEMENT ABOUT A FAIR TRIAL >> LET’S SAY HE’S WILLING TO LET >> LET’S SAY HE’S WILLING TO LET SOME OF THESE WITNESSES TESTIFY, SOME OF THESE WITNESSES TESTIFY, WHETHER IT BE MICK MULVANEY OR WHETHER IT BE MICK MULVANEY OR JOHN BOLTON

JOHN BOLTON WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIGN OFF WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIGN OFF ON REPUBLICAN WITNESSES TO — ON REPUBLICAN WITNESSES TO — WHETHER THAT BE, PERHAPS, HUNTER WHETHER THAT BE, PERHAPS, HUNTER BIDEN OR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER? BIDEN OR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER? >> LOOK, I AM GOING TO USE AS >> LOOK, I AM GOING TO USE AS THE STANDARD DO THESE FOLKS HAVE THE STANDARD DO THESE FOLKS HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS PRESENTED KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS PRESENTED BY THE HOUSE SOME THESE BY THE HOUSE SOME THESE WITNESSES DO WITNESSES DO I’M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A I’M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A NEGOTIATION HERE IN PUBLIC, BUT NEGOTIATION HERE IN PUBLIC, BUT WITNESSES THAT ARE CONSPIRACYEXT

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