Outnumbered 12/03/18 12PM | December 03, 2018 Breaking News

>> Sandra: AS WE TALKED ABOUT, SULLY, THE SERVICE DOG, JOINING THE FORMER PRESIDENT ON THE PLANE AS THEY DEPART A RETIRED AIR FORCE GENERAL IS JOINING US HERE, AS WE SEE THE 41ST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OFF TO WASHINGTON WHERE HE WILL LIE IN STATE FOR TWO DAYS FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO PAY THEIR FINAL RESPECTS, AND SAY GOODBYE TO A PRESIDENT WHO IS BEING REMEMBERED SO FONDLY AND HONORABLY TODAY, GENERAL

>> I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT VERY SPECIAL FAMILY WE HAVE IN AMERICA — THE BUSH FAMILY THEY ARE ALL ON THAT AIRPLANE TOGETHER AS THEY TAKE THE PATRIARCH OF THEIR FAMILY BACK TO WASHINGTON TO BE HONORED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT A REALLY SPECIAL FAMILY THEY TRULY ARE, AND HOW WELL — REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR POLITICS ARE, HOW WELL ALL OF THEM HAVE REPRESENTED THIS COUNTRY THEY CERTAINLY OUGHT TO BE ADMIRED

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE RESPOND TO THIS THEIR LIVES ARE GOING TO BE LONG THE PEOPLE WILL BE THERE, AND OUT OF RESPECT, ADMIRATION, AND LOVE FOR THIS PRESIDENT I'M GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PAYING HONORED TOWARD HIM

>> Bill: GEORGE W BUSH, BUSH 43, WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BOARD AIR FORCE ONE I'M NOT AWARE WHETHER HE HAS BEEN ON BOARD THAT BIG 747 SINCE HE LEFT OFFICE AFTER LEAVING OFFICE — IT GENERALLY FLIES THE FORMER PRESIDENT BACK TO WHATEVER HOME THEY WILL CALL HOME IN THEIR POST-PRESIDENCY THIS MIGHT BE HIS FIRST RETURN TO AIR FORCE ONE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERY PRESIDENT SAYS THEY MESS AFTER THEY LEAVE OFFICE

THEY MISS AIR FORCE ONE THEY MISS THE TIME ABOARD IT, THE PLACES IT TAKES THEM NOW HE GETS TO TRAVEL WITH HIS FATHER, WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO FLY ON BOARD THAT PARTICULAR 747 TO WASHINGTON, DC

, FOR ONE LAST FLIGHT WHAT A REMARKABLE MOMENT IN TIME THIS IS >> Sandra: GENERAL, IT'S ADDRESSING TO LOOK BACK AT HIS FINAL YEARS HIS YEARS AS A RETIREE HE ALWAYS HAD THAT HUNGER FOR ADVENTURE

HE STARTED SKYDIVING, RIGHT? PEOPLE SAID "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? "THEY WERE TAKEN ABACK BY THE FACT THAT HE WANTED TO DO THIS HE SAID "HEY, OLD GUYS CAN STILL DO THE STUFF" IT BRINGS BACK THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CAN INTERESTING, EXCITING THINGS THAT WAS THE GEORGE HW

BUSH THAT WE SAW — SOME OF HIS FINAL YEARS, AT LEAST HE STILL WANTED THAT FRAIL >> I THINK HE WAS DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH HE CELEBRATED LIFE HE HAD ENTHUSIASM FOR IT IT WAS PRETTY REMARKABLE

AT THAT AGE, TO BE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT HIS FORMATIVE YEARS, HE HAD TO DEAL WITH JUST TERROR AT TIMES ROTH FEARED THAT PEOPLE AND CONNED COMBAT HAD TO HE WAS SEEKING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH IT AGAIN AT AGE 75 STANDING UP ON AN AIRPLANE, SKYDIVING FOR THE FIRST TIME, 75 YEARS OF AGE — BELIEVE ME, THE FEAR IS WATCHING OVER HIM

"I CAN FILE THIS UP, AND I MAY NOT MAKE IT" ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOING THROUGH HIS MIND BUT HE GOES OFF THE PLANE ANYWAY THAT CAPTURED THE IMAGINATION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE QUITE A BIT TO GO BACK AND DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT, ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE

A DEMONSTRATION OF HOW TO DEAL WITH THE TWILIGHT OF YOUR LIFE >> Sandra: AS WE AWAIT THE DEPARTURE HERE OF SPECIAL AIR MISSION 41, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS AS YOU LOOK BACK AT THE DEPARTURE CEREMONY? HONORS RENDERED, SIMULTANEOUS 21-GUN SALUTE? IT'S GOT TO BE INCREDIBLY MOVING IS MOVING FOR ALL AMERICANS TO SEE THAT A RETIRED 4-STAR GENERAL, AS YOU SEE OFF OUR 41ST PRESIDENT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> I'M LIKE EVERY OTHER AMERICAN OUT THERE

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD MAN HERE WHO BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND WE HONORED HIM HE WAS BELOVED I JUST FELT SO MUCH PRIDE FOR THOSE TROOPS THAT ARE STANDING THERE, KNOWING THEY WANTED TO GET THIS PERFECT THEY DID THAT OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIM, AND THEY ARE DOING THEIR DUTY

PERFECTION IS THEIR DUTY THEY STEPPED UP TO IT SEEING THAT ENTIRE FAMILY THERE CERTAINLY, I THINK, WASHES ALL OVER US SHOWS HOW MUCH THAT FAMILY HAS DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY AND IT ALL GOT STARTED, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THIS PRESIDENT AND HIS MARVELOUS WIFE, BARBARA

AS THEY SET OUT IN THEIR LIFE AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER AND BEGAN THEIR LIFE IN TEXAS WHAT A TRULY REMARKABLE HISTORY IT IS AND THAT CEREMONY WAS DONE IN PERFECTION, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE HE WAS HONORED IN THAT CEREMONY, AS HE WILL BE IN THE CEREMONIES TO COME I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STEP OUT INTO THE CAPITAL TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS TO HIM

>> OF COURSE, IT WAS A PARACHUTE THAT CARRIED THE YOUNG GEORGE W BUSH TO SAFETY AS HE WAS SHOT DOWN AT THE AGE OF 20, I BELIEVE HE RESUMED LATER IN LIFE, HIS PRESIDENCY AND COME AFTER THOSE GEMS GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THIS MORNING >> IT WAS MY HONOR

THANK YOU >> AT ELLINGTON FIELD IN HOUSTON, AS THEY FIRE UP THE FOUR ENGINES ON THAT BIG 747 SOME FINAL OBSERVANCES TODAY? >> IT WAS ON THE HONOR FOR US TO BE HERE AS WELL, JOHN I WANT TO MENTION, SOME OF THE MILITARY THAT INCLUDED THE 77TH ARMY BAND FROM FORT SILL, OKLAHOMA

WHO PLAYED "HAIL TO THE CHIEF" WE HEARD A 21 GUN SALUTE HERE AS AS WELL, WITH MEMBERS OF THE BUSH FAMILY AS HE MENTIONED, AMONG THOSE WALKED ONTO THIS PLANE, AFTER PRESIDENT GEORGE HW BUSH'S CASKET WAS REMOVED BY THE HONOR GUARD AND THEN CARRIED TO THE WAITING AIR FORCE ONE, WHICH IS NOW, OF COURSE, SPECIAL AIR MISSION 41

THE ENGINES ARE UP, THEY WILL BEGIN TAXIING SHORTLY AND THEN TAKE OFF, HERE, FROM ARLINGTON FIELD THE RESERVE BASE HERE AT THE JOINT INSTALLATION OBVIOUSLY, TODAY, HOSTING AIR FORCE ONE TAKING CARE AS THEY MAKE THEIR WAY BACK

THREE AND HALF HOUR FLIGHT THEY SHOULD BE ON THE GROUND HERE IN DC SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AFTERNOON >> Sandra: TO THE ENGINES ARE RUNNING UP NOW

NOW, RICK, SPECIAL AIR MISSION 41 WILL MAKE ITS WAY TO WASHINGTON DC WHERE THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF A LIE IN STATE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, THERE BEFORE BUSH 41 MAKES HIS WAY BACK TO HOUSTON GREAT FINAL THOUGHTS ON THE GROUND, THERE, AS WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE THE PLANE TAKE OFF

>> IS JUST REMARKABLE, THE THINGS HE ACCOMPLISHED IN HIS LIFE SO MANY THINGS THAT PEOPLE MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT SO MANY LIVES THAT HE CHANGED CERTAINLY, HERE IN HOUSTON, HE IS VERY, VERY WELL RESPECTED VERY WELL-LOVE

PEOPLE HAVE TURNED OUT NOT JUST HERE AT THIS AIRFIELD, TO SEE HIM OFF ACROSS THE CITY PAYING THEIR RESPECTS, WHEREVER THEY CAN OF COURSE, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE BACK HERE FOR A FUNERAL FOR TEXAS LOVED ONES AND DIGNITARIES BEFORE HE IS LAID TO REST IN TEXAS, NEXT TO HIS BELOVED WIFE, BARBARA IT'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE TO BE HERE AND SEE THE OUTPOURING OF LOVE AND SUPPORT HERE ON THE GROUND

TO SEE THE FOLKS HERE COME TO SEE THIS MAN OFF THIS GREAT MAN >> Sandra: TOOK WITH THE LATE PRESIDENT, "THE ONLY THING ABOUT GETTING OLD, I WANT TO BE AROUND TO SEE THE SUCCESS IN LIFE" AT 94 YEARS OLD, HE PASSED ON FRIDAY HE CERTAINLY SAW A LOT OF SUCCESSES IN HIS LIFETIME

INCLUDING HIS BELOVED WIFE, BARBARA HIS SIX CHILDREN, 17 GRANDCHILDREN, EIGHT GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, SOME OF WHICH ARE THERE AND SOME ARE ON BOARD THAT PLANE NOW TO BID HIM FAREWELL AND TRAVEL BACK TO WASHINGTON ON WHAT WILL BE HIS FINAL TRIP TO WASHINGTON >> John: STILL PARACHUTING, AT THE AGE OF 90 A LITTLE MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN HE TURNED 90

HE MADE ONE OF THOSE TENDON PARACHUTE GEMS HE OBSERVED AFTERWARD, "JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE AN OLD GUY YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT AROUND DROOLING IN THE CORNER GET OUT ONTO SOMETHING GET OUT AND ENJOY LIFE" CLEARLY, HE DID THAT

LIVING HIS LIFE WITH ZEST AND ZEAL UP TO THE VERY END SPEED TO THE NATION IS WATCHING NOW AS WE SEE AIR FORCE ONE ABOE WHEELS-UP AND HEADING TO WASHINGTON THE PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY WILL BE ATTENDING HIS FUNERAL ON WEDNESDAY THIS WILL BE A BIG SEVERAL DAYS OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC VIEWINGS AND CEREMONIES TO PAY FINAL RESPECTS THIS COUNTRY LOOKS ON AT OUR 41ST PRESIDENT

WE REMEMBER HIM SO FONDLY FOR SO MANY REASONS AS A POLITICIAN, AS A MILITARY MAN, AND AS A BELOVED FATHER WHO TOUCHED THE LIVES OF SO MANY AND SO MANY OF THE STORIES WE HAVE HEARD TODAY, TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM SO WELL, AND WORKED SO CLOSELY, SO INTIMATELY WITH HIM THEY REMEMBER HIM — AND THIS STRUCK ME — NOT ONLY IS A WONDERFUL MAN, A LEADER, BUT AN INSPIRING BUT TOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT WORD

HE SMILED A LOT, BUT HE WAS TOUGH BUT INSPIRATION HE HAD AS A LEADER, AS A FATHER IT WILL HAVE SUCH A LASTING IMPACT ON THIS COUNTRY AND YOU SAW THAT HONORABLE SEND-OFF, THEY ARE, ON THE GROUND INTERESTING TO HEAR THE ARMY BAND FROM FORT SILL, OKLAHOMA

IT'S A VERY MOVING CEREMONY THE BEGINNING OF SEVERAL OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS >> Jon: THAT NICKNAME, "GAMPY," THAT'S WHAT THE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN THAT'S HOW THEY KNEW HIM TO GET THE CENSUS WAS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND THEY WILL MISS THIS MAN VERY MUCH

AS IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, FOR THEM, THIS IS NOT A DEEP SADNESS ANOTHER TIME OF SADNESS IT'S A TIME TO CELEBRATE A LIFE LIVED WELL, LIVED LONG, AND GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT AND SERVICE TO THIS NATION >> Sandra: HIS DOG, SULLY COME ON BOARD WITH HIM SEEING HIM OFF SAFELY TO WASHINGTON ONE OF A NOTE — FAMILY SPOKESPERSON TODAY SENDING OUT A PICTURE OF THE SOCKS YOU WILL BE LAID TO REST WEARING

HE WAS A STYLE FASHION ICON, IF YOU WILL YOU LOVE TO WEAR FASHIONABLE, LOUD SOCKS AT TIMES HE BECAME KNOWN FOR IT THE FAMILY MADE SURE TO LET US ALL KNOW HE WILL BE WEARING SOME SPECIAL ONES TO BE LAID TO REST IN TODAY

A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY, SENDING THE FORMER PRESIDENT OFF TO WASHINGTON TO LIE IN STATE AT THE US CAPITOL ROTUNDA WHERE HE WILL BE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US LIVE IN AMERICA'S NEWSROOM TO SEE OFF THE 41ST PRESIDENT TO PASSED AWAY ON FRIDAY, AND HIS DEPARTURE CEREMONY FROM HOUSTON HE'S OFF TO WASHINGTON, D

C, NOW WE WILL HAVE CONTINUING COVERAGE ON THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL PLEASE STAY TUNED RIGHT HERE FOR COVERAGE OF THIS STORY THROUGHOUT THE DAY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US RIGHT HERE

I'M SANDRA SMITH IN NEW YORK >> Jon: S THE 747 GETS READY TO FLY, THE PRESIDENT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, FROM AROUND HOUSTON TO WASHINGTON, DC, — IT'S ABOUT A THREE AND A HALF HOUR FLIGHT THAT 747 IS A SCREAMINGLY FAST AIRPLANE WITH THOSE 4 INCHES

TAILWINDS THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SAY IN THE NAVY THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE HAVING NOW AS HE MAKES HIS FINAL FLIGHT ABOVE AIR FORCE ONE >> Sandra: A WINDY DAY IN HOUSTON, AS YOU SAW THE FAMILY MEMBERS OUT ON THE TARMAC FOR THE CEREMONY THE WIND WAS CERTAINLY BLOWING

AN AVIATION EXPERT SAYS THAT WILL BE NO PROBLEM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAY GOODBYE AS HE DEPARTS FOR WASHINGTON, DC, AND WE SAY GOODBYE HERE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US

CONTINUING COVERAGE OF THE PASSING OF OUR 41ST PRESIDENT, GEORGE W BUSH IT'S WHEELS UP FOR SPECIAL INTERMISSION 41 "OUTNUMBERED" CONTINUES NOW >> Harris: WE WILL PICK UP THE COVERAGE THEY ARE, AS PRESIDENT GEORGE W

BUSH IS ON BOARD FOR HIS LAST JOURNEY SPECIAL ADMISSION 41 HEADING TO WASHINGTON, DC, AFTER A DEPARTURE CEREMONY IN HOUSTON, TEXAS WITH THE BUSH FAMILY IN ATTENDANCE YOU WATCH IT LIVE HERE ON FOX NEWS

THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S REMAINS WILL LIE IN STATE AT THE CAPITOL ROTUNDA, BEGINNING THIS EVENING UNTIL A STATE FUNERAL AT THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL ON WEDNESDAY PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DECLARED A NATIONAL DAY OF MOURNING ON THAT DAY THIS IS TO BE 25 I'M HARRIS FAULKNER HERE TODAY, MELISSA FRANCIS

HOST OF "KENNEDY" ON FOX BUSINESS NETWORK, KENNEDY HERSELF FOX NEWS ANALYST, COHOST OF "BENSON & HARF" ON FOX RADIO, MARIE HARF IN THE CENTER SEAT, MATT SCHLAPP CHAIR OF THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNIT, AND FORMER WHITE HOUSE CLINICAL DIRECTOR FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH

WHILE BACK IT IS A HEAVY MOMENT, BUT I HEAR SO MUCH JOY FROM THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE WHO KNEW THE FORMER PRESIDENT YOU WERE JOYFUL AS HE SAT DOWN IT'S A POINT OF CELEBRATION FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE KNOWN AND LOVED HIM >> Matt: WELL, WHEN SOMEONE HAS DIED WHO HAS LIVED A GREAT, BIG, FULL LIFE — AND WHEN THAT PERSON HAS THE DEEP FAITH THAT GEORGE H

W BUSH HAD — THE GREATEST GIFT THEY GAVE US WHEN THEY DIE IS THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING >> Harris: AMEN THESE ARE LIFE PICTURES WE WILL STAY WITH AIR FORCE ONE FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN

WE KNOW THAT SPECIAL MISSION LATER TO THIS WE CAN COME AND AWAITED THE REMAINS OF THE PRESIDENT THE FAMILY GATHERED TODAY, AND NOW THE BEAUTIFUL LOCATION OF RAREFIED AIR AS A FORMER PILOT HE HAS SEEN THAT THROUGHOUT HIS THE YOUNGEST IN THE NAVY AT THE TIME WE WANT TO GIVE HIM A CIVILIAN SALUTE FROM THIS COUCH TODAY KENNEDY, YOUR THOUGHTS? >> Kennedy: ETHIC IT'S REALLY NICE HOW HE STUCK THE LANDING

WHEN JON SCOTT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE QUOTE HE GAVE ON HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY, WHEN HE WENT SKYDIVING INSTEAD OF DROOLING IN THE CORNER IT REALLY IS INSPIRATIONAL IT'S SO TOUGH FOR A FAMILY TO LOSE — YOU THINK OF HIS CHILDREN, LOSING BOTH PARENTS WITHIN A YEAR ESPECIALLY TO HAVE SUCH PUBLIC EVENTS MY HEART REALLY GOES OUT TO THEM

THE NICE THING IS, IT'S RARE THAT WE REALLY PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO SUM UP SOMEONE'S LIFE WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IN APRIL FOR MRS BUSH, AND NOW FOR PRESIDENT BUSH WE GET TO DIVE INTO THE ASPECTS OF HIS LIFE THAT ARE NOT OFTEN TALKED ABOUT, INCLUDING, AS MATT POINTED OUT, HIS BEAUTIFUL ARTICLE, HIS TIME AS A NAVY YOUNG MEN THINK ABOUT IT, HE WAS THE CIA DIRECTOR UNDER GERALD FORD

IN ADDITION TO BEING THE AMBASSADOR TO THE US >> Harris: AIR FORCE ONE IS OUT OF FRAME NOW, SO WE KNOW THAT IN ABOUT THREE AND HALF HOURS OR A LITTLE BIT LESS YOU WILL END IN WASHINGTON, DC, AND WE WILL PICK UP OUR COVERAGE FROM THEIR IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SEE MORE PARTS OF THE JOURNEY

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION HERE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> Melissa: YOU MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE DIGNITY WITH WHICH HE LIVED HIS LIFE AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY SORT OF THE JOYFUL EMBRACE OF LIFE, ACTION-PACKED, VERY ACTIVE, BUT NOT LOOKING BACK NOT HOLDING ONTO THAT — JUST COME OF DIGNITY AND THE LOVE OF LIFE HE TAUGHT SO MANY GREAT LESSONS TO THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM

HERE IS ONE, VICE PRESIDENT QUAYLE HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY >> A LOT OF FOLKS — THEY ASK ME, "WHAT'S THE LEGACY," AND I SAY "THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION HISTORIANS WILL SORT THAT OUT IN MY VIEW, HIS LEGACY, VARIABLA COMPLIMENT

WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE, THE ECONOMY WAS GROWING FIVE OR 6% THE BERLIN WALL CAME DOWN CENTRAL EUROPE FREED FROM THE OAK OF COMPANY'S SEMI THINGS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THE DOMESTIC FRONT, AS WELL

>> Harris: HEARING FROM THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT WITH MARIA BARTIROMO YESTERDAY ONE OF HIS COMPLIMENTS — BECAUSE HE HAD TO — WAS WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS ON THE HILL HE DIDN'T HAVE THE BICAMERAL LEADERSHIP AMONG ONE PARTY THAT WE SEE WITH OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT AND HAVE SEEN IN YEARS SINCE >> Marie: IT REALLY FEELS LIKE AN END OF AN ERA IN AMERICAN POLITICS I FELT SIMILARLY WHEN I SAID GOODBYE TO JOHN McCAIN A FEW MONTHS AGO

THAT THESE WERE MEN WHO SERVED IN THE MILITARY MANY CULTURES THAT HAVE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING THEY VOLUNTEERED, WERE WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE, WERE GRACIOUS IN VICTORY AND DEFEAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT GEORGE DEITCH W BUSH SAID TO BILL CLINTON WHEN HE WAS GIVING HIM ADVICE, WHEN HE WAS GIVING — DIGNITY AND CLASS THAT HE HAD IN THAT OFFICE AND AFTER I THINK IT FEELS LIKE AN ERA OF AMERICAN POLITICS THAT MANY OF US MISSED

WE WISH POLITICS WAS MORE LIKE THIS TODAY I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER REASON, ON TOP OF THE PERSONAL SADNESS, THAT THIS IS — AND SAD FOR OUR COUNTRY, THAT HE IS GONE >> Harris: A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT I REMAIN EVER HOPEFUL HE IS A REMINDER OF WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE

>> Marie: ABSOLUTELY >> Harris: BE SURE TO KEEP YOU HERE ON FOX NEWS MARTHA MacCALLUM WILL ANCHOR OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE CEREMONY AT THE US CAPITOL ROTUNDA WHERE GEORGE W

BUSH WILL LIE IN STATE LEADERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE WILL PAY THEIR RESPECTS, AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WILL ALSO BE THERE HE IS SCHEDULED TO SPEAK, ACTUALLY YOU CAN WATCH THAT LIFE COVERAGE RIGHT HERE ON FOX WE'LL HAVE MORE THIS HOUR, AS WELL, ON THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT, GEORGE H

W BUSH THIS WAS MOMENTS AGO, AS AIR FORCE RUN ONE BEGIN THET TO WASHINGTON, DC SET TO ARRIVE IN THREE AND HALF HOURS AT JOINT BASE ANDREWS

A BUSH SPOKESPERSON TREATED THIS IMAGE OF THE SERVICE DOG, SULLY, LYING NEXT TO THE PRESIDENT'S CASKET ON SUNDAY ALONG WITH THE CAPTION "MISSION: COMPLETE" ♪♪♪>> Melissa:STOCKSURGINGTODAYV ERNEWSOFACEASE-FIRECLOSE WEBADINNERWITHTHEPRESIDENTCLOSE WEB>>ANDITCOULDBEIMPACTONFARMING , COMPUTERS AND WHAT I WOULD BE DOING IS HOLDING BACK ON TARIFFS CHINA WILL BE OPENING UP, AND CHINA WILL BE BUYING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PRODUCT FROM US, INCLUDING AGRICULTURAL FROM OUR FARMERS >> Melissa: THE PRESIDENT COME AGAIN, TOUTING THE DEAL THIS MORNING, TWEETING "MY MEETING IN ARGENTINA WITH PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY ONE RELATIONS MAKING A BIG LEAP FORWARD

VERY GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN, WE ARE DEALING WITH GREAT STRENGTH AND CHINA LIKEWISE HAS MUCH TO GAIN IF AND WHEN I DEAL IS COMPLETED TO LEVEL THE FIELD" BOTH SIDES SAY THAT DEALS HAVE TO BE HAMMERED OUT, BUT STEVE MNUCHIN IS CONFIDENT WE ARE SEEING THE OUTLINES OF A FINAL DEAL STEVE MNUCHIN — I'M GOING TO GO ON, HE SAID THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME

FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WE GOT DOWN TO BRASS TACKS STEVE MNUCHIN IS NO JOKE HE HAS NEGOTIATED MANY DETAILED DEALS OVER HIS LIFETIME, AND HE UNDERSTANDS FINANCE WELL THIS IS A HOPEFUL TIME

>> Matt: IT IS FOR ALL OF THE CRITICS THAT TRUMP'S TRADE WERE RHETORID NEVER BE MATCHED WITH THE RECALIBRATION OF THESE MAJOR RELATIONSHIPS WE SAW IT WITH MEXICO FIRST, AND CANADA HAD TO GO ALONG KICKING AND SCREAMING HE REALLY DID RENEGOTIATE NAFTA

NOW YOU HAVE AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC FOE, AND NATIONAL SECURITY FOE, LOOKING AT DONALD TRUMP THEY LOOK AT HIM AND SAY "I THINK YOU SERIOUS ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE RECIPROCAL TRADE" THAT'S ALL GOT TO GET WRITTEN DOWN THESE ARE MASSIVE STEPS >> Melissa: STEVE MNUCHIN MAKES IT SOUND LIKE A LOT OF IT IS ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN PAY THEY WORKED INTO THE DETAILS

WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT AGO ON FOX BUSINESS NETWORK WITH LARRY KUDLOW, THE NATIONAL SENIOR ADVISOR OF ECONOMICS HE SAID COME AT THAT POINT, IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS — THIS 90 DAY CEASE-FIRE — WE WILL SEE SOMETHING'S GOING TO GET DONE THAT ARE BIG THEY WOULD ONLY KNOW THAT IF THEY HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THESE THINGS I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, MARIE — DEMOCRATS OF A CHOICE TO MAKE ARE THEY GOING TO LET THIS DEAL GO THROUGH, OR ARE THEY GOING TO TRY AND GET IN THERE AND DO SOMETHING? SAME WITH THE USMCA

>> Marie: ON CHINA, THERE IS NO DEAL YET THE BRASS TACKS HE MENTIONED THAT STEVE MINASIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE IMPORTANT POSERS HAVE DETAILS THEY WON'T BE A CAKEWALK WORKING THEM OUT WITH THE CHINESE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TARIFFS

THEY AREN'T GOING UP, BUT WE STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT TARIFFS ON RIGHT NOW WE WILL HAVE TO SEE THOSE DETAILS BREED THE DEVIL BE ALL IN THEM THERE ARE POLITICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK ABOUT WHETHER CONGRESS WOULD APPROVE THE NEW NAFTA, THE UPDATED NAFTA I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS TOUGH QUESTIONS ASKED

ULTIMATELY, I THINK IT WILL IT'S LIKELY NOT A DRASTIC CHANGE IT'S NOT >> Melissa: SPEAKING ON THIS ONE, THE FACTUAL DIFFERENCE — ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 1500 TARIFFS FROM CHINA THEY LOWERED THEM ON THEIR END

AS A SIGN OF CONCESSION SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY SEEN MOVEMENTS >> Kennedy: IS CRITICAL FOR THEM TO LOWER THE TARIFFS, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU HAVE BARRIER-FREE TRADE WITH CHINA WE HAVE YET TO SEE HOW THEY WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY WHICH IS, IN MY MIND, THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE

IN SOME WAYS THE TARIFFS ARE SECONDARY THE MARKET ITS LOVE IT IF YOU WANT THE MARKETS TO GO UP, LET'S RIP THE TRADE >> Melissa: STEVE MNUCHIN MENTIONED THAT SPECIFICALLY, AND THE BATTLES OF THE BOARDWALK CONTINUES AS THE COUNT IS ON TO AVOID THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WHETHER THE PRESIDENT WILL BE OPEN TO COMPROMISE, AND ♪ ♪ >> Harris: A CEREMONY CELEBRATING THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF GEORGE H

W BUSH COULD PUSH BACK THIS FRIDAY'S DEADLINE TO PREVENT TAKE PART THOUGH MY GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THEY WANT TO AVOID A CONTENTIOUS DEBATE DURING WEEK OF HER MEMBERS FRONT AND CENTER, PRESIDENT TRUMP DEMAND $5 BILLION TO FUND THE BORDER WALL THE PRESIDENT TWEETED THIS

"WE WOULD SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF THEY WOULD GIVE US THE VOTES TO BUILD THE WALL EITHER WAY, PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY! WE WILL CLOSE THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN BORDER IF NECESSARY ALSO, STOP THE DRUGS" MY BIG QUESTION — AND I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE — WHY HAVEN'T COME UP UNTIL NOW, REPUBLICANS HELPED THIS PRESIDENT GET THE FUNDING FOR HIS WALL? WE CAN BLAME DEMOCRATS ALL WE WANT, BUT HOW DOES THE SITUATION HAPPEN WHERE HE DOES GET THE VOTE AMONG THE REPUBLICANS EVEN IN THE HOUSE? >> Matt: THIS SHOULDN'T BE SHOCKING NEWS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE BEEN IN CONGRESS A LONG TIME THEY VIEW THE DONALD TRUMP AGENDA AS A BIT OF AN INDICTMENT ON THEIR FAILURE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS

>> Melissa: YEAH, I'D SAY! [LAUGHS] >> Matt: THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE EITHER ON FOR THE WALL, OR THEY DON'T WANT TO AGREE THAT THE IMMIGRATION POLICY OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER HAS BEEN A COMPLETE FAILURE >> Harris: LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT — THEY WERE TO FAIL TWICE, THEN THEY FAILED, THEY DIDN'T WANT IT DONE, AND NOW THEY CAN'T PUSH FOR THERE WAS SOME ROOM >> Matt: THERE IS A DEAL TO BE HAD OF DEMOCRATS WANT TO ACTUALLY GIVE DONALD TRUMP SOMETHING TO SIGN

BUT HE DOES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH HIS OWN PARTY IT'S A QUOTE A FOR QUES >> Melissa: I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DEAL IS TO BE HAD, THERE'S SOMETHING BOTH SIDES WANT THERE'S SOMETHING BOTH SIDES CAN'T LIVE WITH WHERE THEY HAVE TO GIVE AND TAKE I THINK HE HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF DEMOCRATS

IT'S THE REPUBLICANS — I AGREE WITH YOU THEY FAILED HIM >> Matt: WE ARE HAVING A CHANGE IN COALITION AND POLITIC SOMETIMES THEY CALL IT — THAT THERE IS A NEW GROUP, A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT POLITICS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS A MONOLITH

I THINK WE NOW HAVE A CONSERVATIVE COMMUNITY, A REPUBLICAN COMMUNITY, AND A TRUMP COMMUNITY THERE IS MOSTLY OVERLAPPED, BUT NOT COMPLETE IT'S A LOT OF CHANGE IT MAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE I'M GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED THE CHANGE

>> Kennedy: I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC, BECAUSE I THINK THIS TWO PARTY SYSTEM SO OUTDATED IT SERVES ALMOST NO ONE THE PRESIDENT IS REALLY THE FIRST PRESIDENT WHO IS REALIZING THAT THINGS ARE BROKEN UP INTO COALITIONS HE HAD JEFF SESSIONS AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, BUT HE WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT PRETTY RADICAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH IS ALSO A DARLING SUBJECT OF PROGRESSIVES IF YOU CAN TAKE THESE COALITIONS IN AREAS WHERE YOU NEED THEM — >> Melissa: THAT'S A GREAT POINT

>> Kennedy: INSTEAD OF US VERSUS THEM, ONE TEAM VERSUS THE OTHER, NORTHWESTERN VERSUS OHIO STATE — AND THE BUCKEYES WON THAT GAME [LAUGHTER] >> Harris: SENIOR NOT A LONG, AS KENNEDY AND MATT ARE TALKING I TOTALLY GET WHY WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THE PRESIDENT MIGHT BE ON THE PRECIPICE OF A DEAL WITH DEMOCRATS THE QUESTION IS, HOW DID THEY WANT TO FIND THEIR LEGACY INTEGRATION? IT ISN'T JUST REPUBLICANS THEY HAVEN'T DONE MORE THAN THEY SHOULD OR WHAT THEY COULD

DEMOCRATS ARE GUILTY, TOO PAY THEY HAD A SUPER MAJORITY AND COULDN'T GET IT DONE >> Marie: BOTH SIDES OF GOING TO THE EXTREMES AND IMMIGRATION I THINK MY PARTY, THE DEMOCRATS, ARE RIGHT NOW ALSO GOING THROUGH SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE HOUSE WE HAVE PROGRESSIVES WHO WON IN THE SELECTION, AND THERE ARE MANY OF THEM WHO HAVE CERTAIN FEELINGS ON IMMIGRATION A LOT OF THE RECENT DEMOCRATS TOOK THE MAJORITY WERE MODERATES FROM PLACES LIKE THE SUBURBS OF CONSERVATIVE CITIES FROM THE MIDWEST

MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, KANSAS YOU CAN GO AROUND THE COUNTRY THESE ARE NOT ABOLISHED DEMOCRATS WE ARE DOING SIMONE FIGURING OUT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THERE MIGHT BE A STOP GAMMA DOMINANT GAP MEASURE

IF WE'RE SITTING HERE IN EVER BUT HE WANTS TO GO HOME FOR CHRISTMAS — NOBODY WANT TO FIGHT OVER THIS WEEK WHICH I UNDERSTAND >> Melissa: IF THEY WANT TO FIGHT, WHY DO THEY SIT DOWN LIKE ADULTS AND MAKE A DEAL? >> Matt: BECAUSE CONGRESS IS SO DYSFUNCTIONAL THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL EVER SEE A DEAL IS WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL >> Harris: REPUBLICANS ARE NOW NOT GOING TO CONTROL THE HOUSE

HOW MUCH MORGAN'S LAW CAN YOU GET? >> Matt: AT THE THINK THE PRESENT IS SERIOUS ABOUT WANTING IS $5 MILLION WHAT IS MORE SERIOUS ABOUT THAN ANYTHING ELSE — AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THIS — HOW ABOUT THIS? FOLLOW THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THEY ARE EXTENSIVE IN COMP AGAIN AND WE DON'T FOLLOW THEM BECAUSE JUDGES COME ALONG AND GIVE PEOPLE A LIGHTNING BOLT, A REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO THE COUNTRY AROUND THE LAW THAT HAS TO STOP

>> Kennedy: SIMPLIFY THEM THAT'S THE JOB CONGRESS >> Harris: WOW, WE'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT KIND OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY, RUDY GIULIANI, WITH MORE HARSH WORDS FOR THE SPECIAL COUNSEL

THE PRESIDENT ISN'T HOLDING BACK, EITHER AND ONE PERSON WHO COULD BE CENTRAL TO THE INVESTIGATION FILING A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AGAINST ROBERT MUELLER, SAYING HE WANTED HIM TO LIVE WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR THE INVESTIGATION WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Marie: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYER, RUDY GIULIANI, SLAMMING ROBERT MUELLER — ACCUSING HIM OF UNETHICAL TAX RISK AND DISCRIMINATION AFTER MICHAEL COHEN PLED GUILTY TO LYING TO CONGRESS

THIS COMES WEEKS AFTER THE WRITTEN ANSWERS WERE SUBMITTED FROM THE PRESIDENT MEANWHILE, AUTHOR JEROME CORSI — A FORMER ASSOCIATE OF A RUBBER DOLL ROGER STONE — ALLEGING THAT MUELLER'S TEAM TRIED TO TRICK THEM INTO LYING UNDER OATH THE ECHO THAT SENTIMENT THE WEEKEND >> THERE IS NO CIRCUMSTANCE UNDER WHICH I WOULD TESTIFY AGAINST THE PRESIDENT, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TO BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST HIM I HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT

>> Marie: STONE AND CORSI NOW FIGURING THAT STONE ASKED HIM FOR INFORMATION ON WIKILEAKS' INITIAL DUMP OFF HACKED DNC EMAILS HE DENIES THAT, BUT INCOMING HOUSE CHAIRMAN ADAM SHIFTS THINK MEDICATIONS BETWEEN HIM AND CORSI SUGGEST OTHERWISE >> THE EMAILS HE READ THEM, THIS EXCHANGE IS FROM CORSI — WHICH I THINK HE PROVIDED TO THE PRESS — THE SUBSTANCE OF THOSE EMAILS ARE INCONSISTENT WITH HIS TESTIMONY BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE THE EMAILS ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE TESTIMONY BEFORE THE COMMITTEE THE TESTIMONIES BE PROVIDED TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER PERJURY CHARGES ARE WARRANTED

>> Marie: SO, MATT, ROGER STONE AND JEROME CORSI BOTH HAVE A CHECKERED PAST WITH THEIR POLITICAL INVOLVEMENTS I'M TRYING TO BE DIPLOMATIC, HERE CLEARLY, THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH WIKILEAKS THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SPECIAL COUNSEL IS LOOKING AT

WHAT YOU MAKE OF THIS LATEST DEVELOPMENT WITH BOTH OF THOSE MEN? >> Matt: MARIE, THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE >> Marie: LAID OUT FOR ME, THEN [LAUGHS] >> Matt: HE HAS SET OVER A YEAR HE SAID SUBPOENA POWER AND ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD TO GO AFTER ANYBODY AND GET THEM UNDER OATH HE DOESN'T HAVE A CASE

HE HAS SOME — HE HAS SOME FACTS HE BELIEVES THAT POINT TOWARD MAY BE A CONCLUSION, LIKE YOU ARE TALKING, BUT ALL HE IS DOING IS HE IS TAKING THE DIRT HE HAS GOTTEN ON PEOPLE LIKE COHEN AND HE'S SQUEEZING THEM TO GET EVERYTHING HE CAN OUT OF THEM WE TALKED ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM I TELL YOU, COMING OUT OF THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, I THINK WHAT PEOPLE WANT IS THEY WANT A TIME LIMIT ON THESE INVESTIGATIONS THEY WANT A BUDGET LIMIT

LOOK, WE JUST HAD A BIG NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN SHOW ME THE DEMOCRATIC AD, THE 30-SECOND AD COME ON RUSSIAN COLLUSION THEY DIDN'T RUN IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVER IT THERE IS NO CASE

SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT, PUT YOUR CARDS IN THE TABLE, AND LET'S MOVE ON >> Marie: I AGREE, I WENT TO SEE ALL HIS CARDS WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT HARRIS, FOCUSING ON ROGER STONE AND JEROME CORSI — IF IT TURNS OUT THEY WERE WORKING WITH WIKILEAKS OR THEY KNEW WHEN THE HACKED DNC EMAILS WERE COMING BEFORE ANYONE ELSE, THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG DEAL >> Harris: FOR THEM, AND THEIR LEGAL PROCESS, ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE IF THAT'S THE CASE

BUT, YOU KNOW — THE BIGGEST QUESTION I THINK THAT IS STILL OUT THERE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE PRESIDENT KNEW, AND WHEN HE KNEW IT >> Marie: THAT'S VERY WATERGATE >> Harris: IF YOU HAVE ANY SHADY PEOPLE, THESE QUESTIONS ARE INVOLVED, IT'S HARD TO KIND OF KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WE'VE GOT TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HE HAS PIECED TOGETHER JUST TAKE FOR A MOMENT OF ALL THE CHARACTERS THAT WE KNOW — AND I WOULD ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DO POLLING FOR C PACK

>> Matt: WILL YOU CALL ME A CHARACTER QUESTION MARKS TO GO TO THE MEGA PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THAT CUSTOMER WOULD DENZIN POLLING WHAT RESONATES WITH VOTERS? >> Matt: OBVIOUSLY, THE RUSSIAN FUSION THING DOESN'T PLAY AT ALL WEEKS AGO WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW IS HIS SON SOMEBODY DOES IN THE GROUND, THERE IS TRANSPARENCY I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING — THE REASON WHY HIS NUMBERS ARE SO POOR AT ALMOST EVERY POLL, HARRIS, IS BECAUSE HE ALMOST LOOKS LIKE HE'S PLAYING A GAME

HE'S BLACKMAILING PEOPLE INTO SAYING THINGS AND DOING THINGS BECAUSE A SCUMMY PART OF THE PAST >> Harris: PROCESS CRIME >> Matt: I DON'T WANT TO CONDONE THAT >> THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THERE

HE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THINGS ARE STARTING TO SEEM A LITTLE WEIRD UNO ELSE WHO MIGHT HAVE CUSTOMER CAN I HAVE SOMETHING ON THE DOSSIER I HOPE HE DOES IF THEY ARE PUTTING ONE ASPECT OF FILTHY, DIRTY, DISGUSTING POLITICS, CAVORTING WITH COMBUSTIBLE RUSSIANS ON ONE SIDE, THEY HAVE TO DO IT ON THE OTHER

THEY MIGHT BE SOMETHING THERE >> Marie: WE WILL SEED TUNED AND SEE HOPEFULLY SOON I HAD COME OF THE GEORGE W BUSH PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY RELEASING EXCERPTS FROM THINKS HE WROTE IN A DIARY FOR ALMOST 80 YEARS

IT HAS BEEN ANY FATHER, AND WHAT HE TOLD HIS SON WHEN THEY WERE TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE OVAL OFFICE AS PRESIDENTS STAY TUNED ♪ ♪

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