Outnumbered 11/29/18 12PM | November 29, 2018 Breaking News

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>> Sandra: WE WILL BE WATCHING PRETHINK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY "OUTNUMBERED" STARTS NOW >> Harris: FOX NEWS ALERT, NEW GUILTY PLEA IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION INVOLVING MICHAEL COHEN AS THE PRESIDENT RIPS INTO HIS FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY AND FIXER YOU ARE WATCHING "OUTNUMBERED" I'M HARRIS FAULKNER

HERE TODAY, MELISSA FRANCIS FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR LISA BOOTHE HOST OF "KENNEDY" ON FOX BUSINESS, KENNEDY HERSELF IN THE CENTER SEAT, FOR THE FIRST TIME, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO HILLARY CLINTON IN SOUTH CAROLINA, ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT GREAT TO HAVE YOU

>> Antjuan: I FEEL REALLY GOOD IN THE SOUTH WE DON'T SAY "LUCKY," SO I FEEL REALLY BLESSED >> Harris: IS THE SEAT COMFORTABLE? >> GOOD >> Harris: YOU AREN'T GOING TO BLESS HIS HEART? LEFT A MARK [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] WE BEGIN WITH A BIG DIV ELEMENT IN THE RUSH INVESTIGATION MICHAEL COHEN PLEADED GUILTY IN A MANHATTAN FEDERAL COURT TODAY

THIS MORNING FOR LYING TO CONGRESS THE FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO THE PRESIDENT ADMITTED HE MADE FALSE STATEMENTS TO LAWMAKERS ABOUT A PLAN TO BUILD A TRUMP TOWER IN MOSCOW COHEN'S PLEA, HIS LYCAN IN THE PAST FOUR MONTHS, COMES AS PART OF A NEW DEAL WITH SPECIAL COUNTS COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION THE SENATE UNTIL HAD THIS REACTION TO THE GUILTY PLEA

>> THERE SEEMS TO BE A TREND, HERE, AMONGST SO MANY OF THE PRESIDENT'S CLOSEST ALLIES THAT THEY DON'T TELL THE TRUTH IT ALSO IS JUST ONE MORE REINFORCING INDICATION OF WHY THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION HAS TO BE ALLOWED TO AND CONTINUE E UNIMPEDED >> Harris: PRESIDENT TRUMP RIPPED INTO HIS FORMER ATTORNEY AND CONFIDANT JUST BEFORE LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE G20 IN ARGENTINA WATCH IT

>> HE IS A WEAK PERSON, AND WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO IS GET A REDUCED SENTENCE HE IS LYING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT WE WERE VERY OPEN ABOUT IT HE'S LYING VERY CIVILLY TO GET A REDUCED SENTENCE >> Harris: THERE IS LOT TO SCOOP UP IN THE LAST HALF HOUR

LET'S GO TO CHIEF INTELLIGENT CORRESPONDENT CATHERINE HERRIDGE IN WASHINGTON CATHERINE CUST AND HEY, HARRIS EARLIER TODAY WE — BUT TELL MIKE ABOUT THE MOSCOW PROJECT, THIS IS THAT THE HEART OF TODAY'S COURT ACTION WHERE HE SAID HE LIED TO THE SKIERS ABOUT THE MOSCOW PROPOSAL AS HE LEFT A NEW YORK COURT YESTERDAY, HE DID NOT STOP TO TAKE REPORTERS 'QUESTIONS IN THE DRAFTER CONGRESS HE SAID NEGOTIATIONS OVER THE MOSCOW PROJECT ENDED IN JANUARY OF 2016, BUT HE TOLD THE NEW YORK COURT TODAY IT WAS IN FACT IN JUNE OF 2016

IN THE DRAFT, COHEN SAID DISCUSSIONS OF ATTEMPTED TRAVEL TO MOSCOW WAS LIMITED, THAT HE NEVER DISCUSSED IT WITH THEN-CANDIDATE TERM, BUT HE TOLD THE NEW YORK COURT TODAY THAT THE DISCUSSIONS WERE MORE EXTENSIVE A SHORT TIME AGO ON CAPITOL HILL, THE CHAIRMAN IN THE RANKING DEMOCRAT OF THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE WHO GOT THIS TESTIMONY FROM COHEN IN THE FIRST PLACE REACTE REACTED >> I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT UPON THAT COMMENTARY OF THIS INDIVIDUAL, WE HAVE KEPT THAT CONFIDENTIAL OBVIOUSLY MR

COHEN WAS ONE OF THE WITNESSES THAT WE ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE COME BACK THAT NEED TO GOES UP >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SPECIFIC INDICTMENT OR THE PLEA, BUT THIS IS A REASON PEOPLE SHOULDN'T LIE WHEN THEY ARE IN FRONT OF A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION >> IN COURT, COHEN SAID HE MADE THE STATEMENT TO CONGRESS TO KEEP UP WITH POLITICAL MESSAGING AND OUT OF LOYALTY TO THEN-CANDIDATE TRUMP A SOURCE CLOSE TO THE TRUMP LEGAL TEAM QUESTIONED HOW THE CHANGE IN THE TIMING OR THE BREADTH OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLE TRAVEL TO MOSCOW ARE MATERIAL TO A CRIME OF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA, EMPHASIZING THAT THE THIS DEAL NEVER CAME THROUGH

THAT'S A FACT THE PRESIDENT PICKED UP A SHORT TIME AGO >> A BIT OF HE WAS RIGHT, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE I WAS ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER I WANTED DURING THE CAMPAIGN I WAS RUNNING MY BUSINESS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, DURING THE CAMPAIGN

VERY SIMPLY, MICHAEL COHEN IS LYING AND HE IS TRYING TO GET A REDUCED SENTENCE FOR THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME >> WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS THE SPECIFICS OF THE DETAIL THAT COHEN HAS NOW PROVIDED TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL ABOUT THIS REAL ESTATE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE EXTENT OF THE DISCUSSIONS HE HAD WITH THEN-CANDIDATE TRUMP THERE IS STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SEE WHAT THE BASIS WAS FOR THE LYING TO FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS OR TO CONGRESS WITH COHEN EARLIER TODAY >> Harris: CATHERINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH LET'S BRING IT OUT TO THE COUCH

ANTJUAN, WHERE DO YOU PUT ALL OF THIS AND WHAT WE KNOW? A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY "OH, IT FEELS LIKE THINGS ARE KIND OF WRAPPING UP" WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> Antjuan: I THINK IT'S PREMATURE FOR ANYONE TO SPECULATE WHERE THIS IS GOING THE DIRECTION, OR THE SPEED WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE PRESIDENT, ONCE AGAIN, DID WHAT WE KNOW HE ALWAYS DOES, AND THAT IS LIED ABOUT ANY ASSOCIATION HE MAY HAVE HAD OR HAS WITH RUSSIA I WOULD CAST THIS AS ANOTHER PAGE IN THE CATALOG OF LIES BY THE PRESIDENT

IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE FOR, I THINK, HIS CAMP, THAT HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEY — HIS MOST TRUSTED LEGAL ADVISOR — IS NOW GOING DOWN IN FLAMES I'M FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, WE LIKE TO SAY "THERE IS NO INTEREST LIKE SELF INTEREST" I JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT COHEN IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING HE CAN TO PROTECT HIMSELF THROUGH ALL THIS THAT MEANS TELL THE TRUTH >> Harris: SO, YOU BELIEVE MICHAEL COHEN, WHO HAS LIED ABOUT OTHER THINGS, TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND BEING AE CAMPAIGN TRAIL

HERE WE KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO DO SOME BUSINESS DEALS IN MOSCOW WHETHER THEY DID OR NOT, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT >> Melissa: THIS WAS ALREADY KNOWN, THOUGH A >> Antjuan: WE DID NOT KNOW THIS HERE'S WHAT WE DO KNOW — WE KNOW THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEAT THE DRUM FOR A VERY LONG TIME ABOUT TAX RETURNS

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE FURTHER AND FIND THESE THINGS OUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW >> Lisa: MICHAEL COHEN HAS EVERY REASON TO LIE BECAUSE HE TRYING TO STRIKE A PLEA DEAL TO SAVE HIMSELF HE'S NOT A CREDIBLE WITNESS, BECAUSE HE ADMITTED HE ALREADY LIED FURTHER, WE KNOW THAT TRUMP HAS RESPONDED IN THE QUESTION SIMILAR AND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TRUE, AT LEAST IN WHAT HE HAS SAID PREVIOUSLY

PUBLICLY >> Antjuan: DO WE KNOW THAT? >> Lisa: THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT WE KNOW NOW OR WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE PAUSE WHEN WE GET NEW INFORMATION ABOUT RUSSIA WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY THINGS BE INCORRECT ONE OF THE THINGS IS BEING RUN NOW ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE PRESIDENT RESPONDED TO REGARDING QUESTIONS OVER THE UKRAINE PLATFORM CHANGE TO THE G

OP THERE IS A GREAT WRITE UP ABOUT THIS, ACTUALLY, THAT THE PLATFORM WAS STRENGTHENED REGARDING UKRAINE MENTIONED AND THERE IS ONE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND TO RUSSIA THE SAME WAY TO THE SOVIET UNION ALSO TALKING ABOUT ARMED ASSISTANCE TO THE UKRAINE

AS PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TO MIKE REVERSED AND OBAMA POLICY HE HAS BEEN STRONGER AND RUSSIA THAN PRESIDENT OBAMA >> Antjuan: A VERY LOGICAL STANDPOINT >> Lisa: IS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST LAID OUT >> Antjuan: DO YOU THINK — SOMEBODY ON HIS WAY TO JAIL WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE THIS POINT? >> Lisa: 100%

>> Antjuan: MAYBE I'M ON PLUTO SOMEWHERE SPEAKER YOU HAVE OTHER WITNESSES AND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TARGETS AND SUBJECTS WITHIN THIS INVESTN WHO HAVE SAID "MUELLER'S TEAM IS PUTTING A CERTAIN SQUEEZE ON US TO SAY THINGS IN A PARTICULAR WAY FOR A PARTICULAR OUTCOME" WHAT THEY ARE IMPLYING IS THAT THEY ARE KIND OF GUIDED TO LIE OR STRETCH THE TRUTH IN A WAY THAT'S MORE CONVENIENT TO MUELLER AND THE OUTCOME THAT HE WANTS THAT WOULD BE — YOU WOULD ASSUME, TO SHORTEN ONE'S PRISON SENTENCE THAT'S WHAT PAUL MANAFORT SUPPOSEDLY DID WHEN HE ENTERED A PLEA DEAL WITH ROBERT MUELLER

AND MUELLER 'ESTEEM IS NOW SAYING "HE WENT BACK ON HIS WORK, HE'S BEEN LYING ABOUT STUFF, AND MANAFORT HAS BEEN SAYING HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO LIVE AND HE WOULDN'T DO THAT IT'S ALL VERY CONFUSING IT SEEMS THAT MUELLER HAS SOME VERY SPECIFIC SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO GET WHAT HE WANTS OUT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE SLIPPERY TO BEGIN WITH I WILL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THAT

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN — >> Harris: THAT'S INTERESTING >> Kennedy: IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN ALL OF THE SUDDEN CONNECTS THESE DOTS THAT MAGICALLY LEAD TO RUSSIA AFFECTING THE OUTCOME OF THE 2016 CAMPAIGN, THEREFORE, THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE — >> Harris: LET ME JUMP IN, ANTJUAN I WANT TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT KENNEDY JUST THAT WHICH IS INTERESTING AS OF LATE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THE PRESIDENT SAY THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION OR INVESTIGATORS COULD HAVE TALKED WITH MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE GIVEN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, MORE PERSPECTIVE, OR WHATEVER

BUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN ARE IN A SPOT IT'S WHAT CANDICE HAS, THEY ARE SLOPPY THEY ARE SHADY PRELET ME FINISH THEY HAVE SHADINESS IN THEIR HISTORY AND WITH PAUL MANAFORT WE HAVE LAWBREAKING IN HIS HISTORY THOSE PEOPLE ARE EASIER TO PUT THE SQUEEZE ON

THEY HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING MANAFORT FOR A VERY LONG TIME YET, EXTRAPOLATE WHAT YOU WANT FROM HIM YOU EXTRACT IT, YOU ASK TRIPLETT, AND THEN YOU TRY TO USE IT IN ANOTHER INVESTIGATION WHAT DOES HE DO? WHAT DOES IT DO ON THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL, HE COULD POTENTIALLY BE PARDONED WHAT COUNTED THIS ONE BY SAYING HE'S GUILTY IN A STATE COURT MAKES A MORE COMPLETE IT

BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT CAN TOUCH THAT KENNEDY'S POINT — WHAT IS COHEN'S BOTTOM LINE CUSTOMER HE SAID, SELF INTEREST THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD LIVE >> Antjuan: AGAIN, FROM A PRACTICAL COMMON SENSE STANDPOINT — >> Harris: I THINK I'M PRETTY — >> Antjuan: NO, NO, LISTEN >> Harris: BE CAREFUL THROWING OUT AROUND ON THE COUCH TO WOME WOMEN

>> Kennedy: COSTA LEE CHANGING HER STORY, WHEN YOU DECIDE THAT THAT STRAIN IS THE TRUTH AND THAT ONE IS A VIRULENT LIED? >> Harris: HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH LANE I WANT TO DRIVE DOWN? >> Antjuan: ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT — LET'S JUST SAY HE'S GOT A POTENTIAL OF FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS IF HE CONTINUES TO LIKE BUT I COULD TURN IT TO 20 YOU THINK IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS? >> HE ALREADY LIED >> Antjuan: WHAT I'M SAYING HE'S HE WON'T FURTHER LIED >> Harris: TEN, 15, 20, OR FEDERAL

YES BECAUSE HE CAN ATTRACT, IN THAT VENUE, POTENTIALLY THE >> Antjuan: THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON FOR HIM TO LIVE >> Lisa: BINGO >> Harris: IT'S A BLOW SET

IT >> Antjuan: HARRIS, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE DOWN TESCO >> Kennedy: HE LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES COMMITTEE HOLDS THE BIBLE HIGH! >> Antjuan: I'M NOT SAYING — IT SEEMS LIKE ANTJUAN'S RIGHT, HE'S JUST OUTNUMBERED [LAUGHTER] >> Harris: THAT'S A GOOD ONE >> Harris: IN A NEW INTERVIEW, THE PRESIDENT IS NOT RULING OUT A PARDON FOR HIS FORMER 2016 CAMPAIGN CHAIR, PAUL MANAFORT WE WILL FOLD HIM ESSENTIAL INTO CONVERSATION STEPPING UP HIS CRITICISMS OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION

WE WILL CONTINUE THIS DEBATE LATER IN THE HOUR PLUS, THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW IS HEADED TO THE G20 SUMMIT HE JUST CANCELED HIS PLANNED MEETING WITH OUT THEM IMPUTE IN THERE AND, MEANWHILE, A GROWING NUMBER OF SENATORS SLAMMING THE WHITE HOUSE'S RESPONSE TO SAUDI ARABIA AFTER THE DEATH OF COLUMNIST JAMAAL KHASHOGGI WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL EFFECT OF ALL THIS QUESTION MARKS TO CLOS CLOSE

>> WHY ARE YOU MEETING WITH THE CROWN PRINCE KRISTIN >> WHY ARE YOU MEETING WITH THE CROWN PRINCE? >> IT WASN'T SET UP I WOULD HAVE MET WITH HIM, BUT WE DIDN'T SET THAT ONE UP I'M MEETING WITH PRESIDENT XI, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT MEETING HAVING TO DO WITH TRADE AS YOU KNOW, I'M MAKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME

>> Melissa: THAT IS PRESIDENT TRUMP A SHORT TIME AGO AS HE HEADS TO THE G20 SUMMIT IN ARGENTINA THE TRIP COMES AMID GROWING PUSHBACK OVER WHITE HOUSE SUPPORT OF SAUDI ARABIA IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE MURDER OF COLUMNIST JAMAL KHASHOGGI THE CIA HAS REPORTEDLY ASSESSED WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA ORDERED THE KILLING, AND AS YOU JUST HEARD, THE PRESIDENT IS NOT PLANNING TO MEET WITH THE CROWN PRINCE MEANWHILE, A BIPARTISAN GROUP OF SENATORS REBUKED THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY AFTER THEY RECEIVED A CLASSIFIED BRIEFING ON THE KHASHOGGI KILLING MANY SENATORS WERE UPSET THAT CIA DIRECTOR GINA HASPEL WAS NOT THERE

HERE IS A REPUBLICAN LINDSEY GRAHAM, WHO BLOW DUBKE LIKA PROBABLY THROUGH SUPPORT BEHIND THE RESOLUTION COVER SEEKING TO PULL MILITARY SUPPORT FOR SAUDI ARABIA >> I CHANGE MY MIND, BECAUSE I'M PISSED THE WAY THEY HANDLED SAUDI ARABIA THEN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THE BRIEFING TODAY DID NOT HELP ME AT ALL BETTER UNDERSTAND THE ROLE THAT MBS PLAYED IN KILLING JAMAL KHASHOGGI INSTITUTIONALLY, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE BRIEFED

HOW CAN I MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AS UNITED STATES SENATOR ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CROWN PRINCE IS COMPLICIT IN A MURDER IF I DON'T HAVE THAT INTELLIGENCE THAT I READ ABOUT IN THE PAPER? THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR ME >> Melissa: KENNEDY, I WOULD ASK YOU — WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE US RESPONSE IS, THOUGH TALKING ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE TOUGHER AND STRONGER

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON WITH THE ACTUAL KING OF SAUDI ARABIA RIGHT NOW THESE — THE CROWN PRINCE'S FUTURE >> Kennedy: IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE THE OFTENTIMES PROJECT THE WAY WE LIVE AND OUR POLITICS AND OUR CULTURE ON OTHER COUNTRIES HERE, IF YOU WERE IN CHARGE AND YOU ORDERED THE MURDER OF A JOURNALIST, YOU WOULD BE REMOVED FROM POWER

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE IN SAUDI ARABIA, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE, LINKING MBS TO THIS KILLING BUT, WHEN YOU HAVE THE CIA DIRECTOR COME OUT AND SAY "YEAH, I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THAT HE ORDERED THIS WHOLE THING," I DON'T BLAME THE SENATORS FOR THEIR FRUSTRATION BECAUSE THEY WANT ACCESS TO THAT INTELLIGENCE OR, AT LEAST A BRIEFING FROM THE DIRECTOR HERSELF, WHO CAN LAY OUT THIS CASE IT'S INCREDIBLE PROBLEMATIC

BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST THING THAT SAUDI ARABIA HAS EVER DONE THAT SHOULD RAISE THE IRE OF THE UNITED STATES WHEN LINDSEY GRAHAM AND OTHER SENATORS TALKING PULLING FUNDING, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN A PROXY WAR IN YEMEN WHERE CIVILIANS ARE DYING AND WE ARE, BY PROXY, CULPABLE THERE I THINK THAT SHOULD BE APPLAUDED I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THAT, WHERE WE PULL BACK ON ANY SORT OF MILITARY INTERFERENCE >> Harris: CAN I JUST ALSO ADD — SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP GINA HASPEL — THERE WAS THAT GO BACK AND FORTH NOT ONLY WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM BUT WITH OTHER SENATORS ON THE HILL YESTERDAY, "WHY DIDN'T WE HEAR FROM THE CIA DIRECTOR? WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HEAR THAT MY POINT A FINGER TO THE CROWN PRINCE OR NOT?" AND SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY OF LOUISIANA TOLD ME LAST NIGHT THAT WHAT HE WAS LEARNING ON THE HILL YESTERDAY — AND THIS IS PER HIM, ONLY — GINA HASPEL ENTER CREW HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS LEAKING

THERE MIGHT BE — IN THAT CASE, EVEN BIGGER, RIGHT QUESTION WRECK NATIONAL SECURITY NOT JUST THEIR OWN BUT FOR ALL OF US YOU'RE GIVING ME THAT SIDE EYE, THAT MY 11 EURO GIVES ME SOMETIMES [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE WANTING IS ABSOLUTE CONVERSATION WITH THE CIA DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL GAIN THAT BUT SENATOR KENNEDY SAID THAT HE WANTED TO HEAR FROM HER, TOO THEY ALL DID THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE PIK PIKE >> Antjuan: THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS, SENDING A MESSAGE OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT

I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT PARTICULARLY WITH THE TONE AND TEMPERATURE IN WASHINGTON, DC WHAT I'M MOST DISAPPOINTED IN HIS THE WHITE HOUSE RESPONDS TO ALL THIS LOOK, THIS GOES BEYOND — THIS SHOULD GO BEYOND TRUMPS PERSONAL DEALINGS, IZZY IF YOU HAD H SAUDI ARABIA THIS SHOULD GO BEYOND THE POLITICS

THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT THESE THINGS NOT BEING THE FUTURE >> Melissa: MY POINT IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WHITE HOUSE RESPONSE WAS WE DON'T KNOW WITH THE CONVERSATION — WE DON'T KNOW — >> Antjuan: THE POSTURE FROM THE PRESIDENT ABOUT THE SO FAR >> Melissa: THAT'S IT, YOU'VE SEEN POSTURE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEM

YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CONVERSATION YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN PULLED BACK WE DO KNOW THIS, THOUGH SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT HE DID CANCEL HIS MEETING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN AT THE G20, SPEAKING OF DESPOTS AROUND THE WORLD

THIS WAS THE TWEET BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE SHIPS AND SAILORS HAVE NOT BEEN RETURNED TO UKRAINE FROM RUSSIA, I HAVE DECIDED IT'S BEST FOR ALL PARTIES CONCERNED TO CANCEL THE PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN ARGENTINA WITH PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN I LOOK FORWARD TO A MEANINGFUL SUMMIT AGAIN, AS SOON AS THE SITUATION IS RESOLVED" GOOD MOVE? >> Lisa: 100% I AGREE WITH PRESIDENT OF NOT MEETING WITH PUTIN REGARDING THIS

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, PRESIDENT TRUMP REVERSED PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICY OF NOT PROVIDING LETHAL AID TO UKRAINE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE THAT AGAIN, ANOTHER PLAYER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN STRONG ON RUSSIA REGARDING SAUDI ARABIA, I DO THINK THAT THE SENATE'S ACTION IS A STRONG REBUKE AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP IN REGARD TO YEMEN IN THE SAUDI-LED EFFORT THERE

THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DETER PRESIDENT TRUMP IN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR POLICY REGARDING SAUDI ARABIA I THINK, NAMELY, AT LEAST REGARDING YEMEN, IT'S ALL ABOUT AL QAEDA AND THE ARABIAN PENINSULA AND THE CONCERN OF THREAT OF TERROR THERE AS WELL AS ISIS >> Harris: THOSE TWO THINGS ARE SIDE-BY-SIDE SO, THE LEGISLATION WILL NOT HAVE THE TERRORIST MOVEMENT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SORT IN IT

THEY WILL BE SIDE-BY-SIDE WHAT THE CENTERS WILL BE CONSIDERING, AND HOUSE NUMBERS TWO, WILL BE CONSIDERING A SITUATION THAT STREAMLINES THIS TO ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY THINK THEY CAN CONTROL, THAT PROXY WAR ON THE GROUND OUR INPUT AND THAT, SO ON AND SO FORTH GOING AFTER AL QAEDA AND THE ARABIAN PENINSULA, WILL NOT BE STOPPED THAT'S WHAT WILL HAS BEEN Y SENATORS

>> Kennedy: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THE SAUDIS EFFORTS IN YEMEN DUE TO ALSO A QAP AND THE TERRORIST EFFORTS AS WELL THAT'S WHY HE SAYS >> Melissa: TO BE CONTINUED, FOR SURE THE PRESIDENT CALLING HIS FORMER PERSON PERSONAL ATTORNEY A LIAR, AFTER MICHAEL COHEN COPPED A NEW PLEA DEAL WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL MUELLER ANDREW NAPOLITANO JOINS US NEXT TO BREAK DOWN WHAT THIS COULD MEAN

PLUS, PAUL MANAFORT — PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE'S NOT RULING OUT A PARDON LOOK AT THE FOLLOW-UP BE FROM SUCH A MOVE QUESTION MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY THAT >> IT'S VERY SAD WHAT HAPPENED TO PAUL, THE WAY HE'S MENTORING TELL MIKE BEING TR >> VERY SIMPLY, MICHAEL COHEN IS LYING AND HE IS TRYING TO GET A REDUCED SENTENCE FOR THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME >> Harris: THAT'S MORE THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY, REACTING TO THE NEWS THAT HIS FORMER ATTORNEY, MICHAEL COHEN, HAS CUT A NEW PLEA DEAL IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION : PLEADING GUILTY THIS MORNING TO LYING TO CONGRESS ABOUT A TRUMP ORGANIZATION REAL ESTATE PROJECT IN MOSCOW

HERE IS MICHAEL COHEN, LEAVING THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE IN NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK, CITY A FEW HOURS AGO LET'S BRING IN THE FOX NEWS SENIOR JUDICIAL ANALYST, ANDREW NAPOLITANO WE SAW FROM THE VIDEO, IT HAPPEN WHAT HAPPENED, JUDGE? >> APPARENTLY, MICHAEL COHEN AND HIS LAWYERS HAD BEEN NEGOTIATING THAT WITH BOB NEWLY BUT WITH FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HERE IN NEW YORK CITY FOR, AS THE PRESIDENT SAID, A REDUCED SENTENCE IN RETURN FOR SOMETHING

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOMETHING IS SO, HE PLEADED GUILTY TO LYING TO A SENATE INVESTIGATOR ABOUT WHO HE SAW IN MOSCOW, WHAT HE WENT THEREFORE, IN WHAT HE SAID TO THEM THE PRESIDENT SAYS THIS IS ABOUT A HOTEL PROJECT HE WAS GOING TO BUILD, WHICH HE SERIOUSLY CONTEMPLATED BUILDING ON WHICH HE CHANGED HIS MIND HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE CAMPAIGNER WITH HIS PRESIDENCY

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MICHAEL COHEN TOLD THE PROSECUTORS IN RETURN FOR THEM AGREEING TO A REDUCED SENTENCE WE MAY FIND THAT OUT, WE MAY NEVER FIND IT OUT >> Harris: JUDGE, IS THE PRESIDENT RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS THAT IN THE LEAD UP TO THE ELECTION HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED IN TERMS OF BUSINESS DEALINGS? JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS PERSON? >> YES, HE'S QUITE CORRECT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT MICHAEL COHEN TOLD THE PROSECUTORS HE WAS IN MOSCOW FOR HE WAS OSTENSIBLY IN MOSCOW ON A PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE BUSINESS DEAL, THE BUILDING OF TRUMP TOWER MOSCOW, WHICH NEVER HAVE BEEN

>> Harris: IF IT WAS PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE, WHY WOULD HE LIKE US TO MARK YOUR HEAD >> WHO NICE OR HE WOULD WHY HE TOLD A FEDERAL JUDGE THIS MORNING THE REASON HE LIED WAS TO STAY ON POLITICAL MESSAGE WHATEVER THAT MEANS I GUESS HE IS SAYING THAT OF THE TIME HE LIED, HE THOUGHT HE WOULD HELP THE PRESIDENT BY LYING

OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS NOT THE CASE >> Melissa: JUDGE, THE QUESTION OF THE DAY SO FAR, SINCE YOU'VE HEARD THIS — AND WE HAVE HEARD CATHERINE HERRIDGE ASK IT, AS WELL — HOW DOES THIS MATERIALLY CHANGE WHAT HAS HAPPENED, ANY CASE SOMEONE WOULD HAVE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT? IF COHEN LIED ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BUILDING DEAL WE ALL KNEW ABOUT, OR HE LIED ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH SOMEONE WAS GOING TO TRAVEL, WHO WAS GOING TO TRAVEL — DO WE HAVE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY TRAVELING, OR DO WE NOT REALLY TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY POSSIBLY TRAVELING TO DO A MEETING OF THE DEAL? HOW IS THAT MATERIALLY IMPACTING SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONCEIVED OF AS ILLEGAL? >> I WISH I KNEW [LAUGHS] I WISH I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT BOB MUELLER AND THE PROSECUTORS HERE IN NEW YORK CITY HAVE, MELISSA, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T TYPICALLY, WHEN A PERSON IS GIVEN A VERY GOOD DEAL — AND THE PRESIDENT IS RIGHT, HE'S GOT A SERIOUS REDUCTION IN EXPOSURE TO JAIL TIME — IT'S FOR WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY TOLD THE PROSECUTORS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAS ALREADY TOLD THE PROSECUTORS

BUT, I WILL TELL YOU THIS — THE EASIEST CHARGE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PROVE HIS CONSPIRACY CONSPIRACY IS AN AGREEMENT TO DO SOMETHING WRONG, EVEN IF THE SOMETHING WRONG NEVER HAPPENED SO, WAS MICHAEL COHEN'S TRIP TO MOSCOW PART OF SOME AGREEMENT OR SERIES OF AGREEMENTS TO DO SOMETHING WRONG FOR THE CAMPAIGN? IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HEAR OR SEE WHAT MICHAEL COHEN TOLD THE PROSECUTORS, WHATEVER IT WAS IT WAS ENOUGH TO ASK THEM TO LOWER THE JAIL TIME CONSIDERABLY >> Harris: ANTJUAN SEAWRIGHT IS ON FIRE TO ASK A QUESTION ANTJUAN? >> Antjuan: JUDGE, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, IN THE INVESTIGATION, THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER SPECIAL PROSECUTOR IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION? THAT SEEMS TO BE THE TEMPERATURE FROM THE RIGHT, THAT WE NEED TO SHUT THIS DOWN

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING DO YOU REALLY THINK IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AT THREE HE'S GOING? >> NOT AT THIS STAGE IN THE GAME, ANTJUAN I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT I WILL ALSO SAY, I UNDERSTAND THE INPATIENTS THAT A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN EXPECTING THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS CASE IT, NOT THE ONE INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT

PROSECUTORS DON'T ALWAYS GET EVIDENCE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET EVIDENCE FROM CREDIBLE PEOPLE MICHAEL COHEN — THE PRESIDENT RIGHT, HE'S NOT A CREDIBLE PERSON HE HAS TWICE PLEADED GUILTY TO CRIMES OF DECEPTION THE BANK FRAUD, AND LYING TO CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS >> Kennedy: JUDGE, IT'S CANDY

THAT WAS MY QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU HOW DOES SPECIAL COUNSEL DECIDE WHAT ASPECTS OF MICHAEL COHEN'S STORY TO BELIEVE, OR ANY OF THESE WITNESSES, WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE LIED? >> GREAT QUESTION PRAYED WHEN THEY CAN CORROBORATE WHAT HE TOLD THEM JUST LIKE THEY ARE USING — >> Harris: THEY CAN CORROBORATE ALIVE? >> COOPERATE WHATEVER HE TOLD THEM IN RETURN FOR THE REDUCED SENTENCE JUSTICE PALMETTO FORGIVE THEM INFORMATION, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T PUT THEM ON THE SAND BUT HE'S A VETERAN LIAR

THEY WILL USE WHATEVER MEN MANAT TOLD THEM OR WHAT COHEN TOLD HIM WITH EVIDENCE LIKE EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS OR TEXT MESSAGES >> Lisa: IS A NEED THAT INFORMATION USABLE IF HE'S A LIAR AND NOT CREDIBLE? >> Melissa: IF YOU BACK IT OUT, IT IS >> MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT, WITH THE PROSECUTORS ARE TRYING TO PROVE, IS A CONSPIRACY A CONSPIRACY IS A SERIES OF AGREEMENTS A SERIES OF AGREEMENTS MEANS A NUMBER OF JIGSAW PUZZLES — I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT MICHAEL COHEN GAVE THEM A FEW PIECES IN ONE OF THE JIGSAW PUZZLES, AND TO GIVE IT TO THEM BEFORE THIS MORNING OR THEY WOULDN'T HAVE UNDER THAT AGREEMENT

WHAT THOSE PIECES WERE, WE DON'T KNOW AND WE MAY NOT KNOW, LISA, UNTIL THIS STUFF IS LAID OUT BY BOB MUELLER >> Melissa: THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING HE'S NOT TAKING THE POSSIBILITY OF A PARDON FROM HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN CHAIR, PAUL MANAFORT COME OFF THE TABLE MANAFORT HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF MULTIPLE COUNTS OF FRAUD IN CONJUNCTION WITH HIS WORK AS A POLITICAL CONSULTANT AND YOU GAIN IN UKRAINE

HE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING AS HE LEFT THE LETTUCE FOR G20 SUMMIT WATCH >> IT'S VERY SAD, WHAT'S HAPPENED TO PAUL THE WAY HE IS BEING TREATED I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY TREATED SO POORLY

I SAID I HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY PARDON, AND I THINK THEY ASKED, WOULD YOU? I SAID I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING OFF THE TABLE >> Melissa: "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" REPORTS THAT MEN AFFORD LIED TO INVESTIGATORS ABOUT HIS PERSONAL FINANCIAL DEALINGS WITH UKRAINE, RESULTING IN SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER REVOKING MANAFORT 'HIS PLEA DEAL IN THE MEANTIME, JEROME CORSI — AN ASSOCIATE OF TRUMP ALLY ROGER STONE — HAS CEASED COOPERATING WITH MUELLER AND NOW CLAIMED THAT MUELLER BUS TRIPS PRESSURED HIM TO LIVE HE HAS ASKED HIS LEGAL TEAM TO BRING APART ALL MICRO CRIMINAL COMPLETE AGAINST MUELLER AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING WRINKLE

>> Lisa: ADVOCATES CONSISTENT WITH THE MICHAEL PHONE SITUATION, AS WELL, ACCORDING TO THE FBI SAID, BELIEVE THAT MICHAEL FLYNN HAD — DID NOT LIE AS SOON AS ROBERT MUELLER TOOK OVER, HE PLED GUILTY TO LYING THAT RAISES QUESTIONS TO ME, IN THE TACTICS OF MUELLER REGARDING ANY SORT OF PARDON FOR MANAFORT I THINK IT WOULD BE THE WRONG DECISION TO MAKE CLEARLY, MANAFORT HAS VIOLATED THE LAW AND HAS DONE SO FOR QUITE SOME TIME I QUESTION WHY THE FBI NEVER RELAYED THAT INFORMATION TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, CONSIDERING THAT THEY SAT DOWN WITH HIM, I BELIEVE, IN 2013 AS WELL AS 2014

YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE PERTINENT INFORMATION ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TOLD AND FINDS THAT SHE WAS A CHINESE SP SPY >> Kennedy: SHE CERTAINLY DOES HAVE SOME COLORFUL PRACTICES WHICH I REALLY PRETTY JEROME CORSI IS NOW A PUBLIC THORN IN MUELLER 'SIDE

IS GIVING INFORMATION TO THE PRESS, WHICH ISN'T LEAKING BECAUSE IT'S SO OVER IT IT IT HAS TO BE REALLY FRUSTRATING FOR MUELLER AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE GETTING BITS OF INFORMATION FROM MUELLE MUELLER'S SIDE, BECAUSE THERE IS DIVISION WITHIN THAT CAMP ABOUT TO PROCEED WITH SOME OF THE PRESIDENTS ANSWERS WE ARE SEEING IN THE PRESS SOME OF THE ANSWERS IN WRITING, THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS GIVEN TO SPECIAL COUNSEL

THE WHOLE THING IS NOW SO ODD, AND THERE ARE SO MANY PERSONALITIES THAT ARE CONNECTED IN THE STRANGEST WAYS THAT YOU JUST SIT HERE EVERY DAY AND YOU — IT'S LIKE A CRAZY SPY NOVEL YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO END UP, OR HOW IT'S GOING TO TEST THE FUTURE LIMITS OF SPECIAL COUNSEL >> Antjuan: THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT AND WAIT [LAUGHS] >> Melissa: THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS! I DON'T LIKE BEING PATIENT, THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS! NOBODIES BEING PATIENT! >> Antjuan: EVEN BETTER NEWS IS THAT THEY'RE BEEN ALMOST ZERO LEAKS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CAMP THE THING I'M HOPEFUL ABOUT, PARTICULARLY — SPEAK A WORD OF THOSE ANSWERS COME FROM? >> THE THING WHOM THINKING ABOUT IS MEASURES IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

THE WORK IS DONE, SO HE CAN FINISH HIS WORK AT THE END OF THOSE OFT PLANS OUT WHETHER HE'S GUILTY OR INNOCENT, I THINK WE HAVE DONE OUR JOB IN THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR HAS DONE HIS JOB THAT'S WHAT 70% OF AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT >> Harris: WE'VE GOT TO GO >> Melissa: ALL RIGHT

PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS IF DEMOCRATS MAKE GOOD ON THEIR THREATS TO LAUNCH INVESTIGATIONS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, HE WILL PUNCH BACK BY DECLASSIFYING DOCUMENTS ON THE RUSSIA PROBE A SMART POLITICAL MOVE? A DISTURBINEA ♪ ♪ >> Lisa: WELCOME BACK PRESIDENT TRUMP REPORTEDLY THREATENING TO DECLASSIFY FISA WARRANT APPLICATIONS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS FROM THE MUELLER PROBE IF HOUSE DEMOCRATS LAUNCH INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST HIM AND HIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY TAKE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE NEXT YEAR THE PRESIDENT TO TELLING "THE NEW YORK POST," IF THEY GO DOWN THE PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT TRACK, IF THEY WANT TO GO AND HARASS THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME

I'M A COUNTERPUNCH I WILL HIT THEM SO HARD IF THEY'VE NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT "THIS AFTER THEY CALL THE PRESIDENT TO DECLASSIFY JUSTICE BERMAN DOCUMENTS THEY FEEL WILL UNDERCUT THE TERM COULD PAY AN ADVISOR TO MEMOS ON DUTY OFFICIAL BRUCE OHR'S INTERACTIONS WITH CHRISTOPHER STEELE, THE AUTHOR OF THE CONTROVERSIAL TRUMPED LC I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, KENNEDY

WE KNOW WITH RECENT DOCUMENTS THAT CONGRESS HAD OBTAINED WITH BRUCE OHR THAT CHRISTOPHER STEELE WAS WORRIED ABOUT COMEY'S IRON, HE WAS WORRIED THEY WOULD BE EXPOSED IS PRESIDENT TRUMP KEEPING THESE DOCUMENTS LEVERAGE AGAINST AN INCOMING DEMOCRAT-CONTROLLED HOUSE? >> Kennedy: YES THAT PART, I DISAGREE WITH I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE USED AS A FORM OF POLITICAL EXTORTION I THINK WE SHOULD GET IN THE HABIT OF RELEASING THESE THINGS GETTING TO TO PEER INTO THE PROCESS OF FISA APPLICATION — WARRANT APPLICATIONS

I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW, AND SO MUCH LEFT UP TO THE IMAGINATION, WHICH LEADS TO ULCERS OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND CONJECTURE AND DEMAGOGUERY ON BOTH SIDES IT ALSO ADDS TO THIS ALREADY-TOXIC ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PROCESS, AND THERE ARE SO MANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS

AS ADAM SCHIFF TALKS ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND APPEARANCE OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION, YOU COULD APPLY THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS TO THE GATHERING OF THE DOSSIER AND WHO CHRISTOPHER STEELE MIGHT'VE SPOKEN TO AT THE BEHEST OF A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN AND A NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMITTEE >> Lisa: ANTJUAN, DO YOU THINK THIS WILL DETER THE DEMOCRATS IN THEIR INVESTIGATION AT ALL? >> Antjuan: KNOW, THE PRESIDENT IS BEHAVING IMMATURELY AND HAS CONDUCTED HIMSELF LIKE — COAT THE CONGRESS HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY, THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PERFORM CHECKS AND BALANCES >> Lisa: IS THAT WHAT CONGRESS IS DOING RIGHT NOW? QUESTION MAKES ME SICK THIS CONGRESS DID NOT — >> Lisa: THE CONGRESS, THE FBI THAT — >> Antjuan: HERE'S MY MESSAGE TO MY DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN THE CONGRESS — DO NOT SPEND ALL OF YOUR TIME SLOWING DOWN THE CONGRESS INVESTIGATION AFTER INVESTIGATION BE STRATEGIC AND BE MINDFUL AND THE THOUGHT

INSTEAD, FOCUS ON LEGISLATION DO THE THINGS THAT GOT THEM TO THE MAJORITY AND DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THIS NARRATIVE OF BACK AND FORTH WITH TRUMP BUT ALSO MAKE SURE YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE ALONG THE WAY >> Harris: THIS WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE — ERIC SWALWELL OF CALIFORNIA TOLD ME YESTERDAY THEY WILL BE AN INVESTIGATING AND LEGISLATING

HE THINKS THEY CAN DO BOTH WALK AND TALK, I KNOW, IT IS THE MANTRA OF THE DEMOCRATS WALK AND TALK BUT YOU FINALLY HAVE PART OF THE LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON BACK IS THAT REALLY WHERE YOU WANT TO PUSH HER POWDER? >> Antjuan: HARRIS, THERE'S AN OLD SONG I LIKE TO SING

"IT TAKES YOU TO MAKE A THING GO RIGHT" [LAUGHTER] I THINK THEY CAN DO BOTH I THINK THEY CAN INVESTIGATE AND LEGISLATE BUT I THINK THE INVESTIGATION PART HAS TO BE STRATEGIC I DON'T THINK THEY CAN JUST INVESTIGATE IT DAY AFTER DAY, TIME AFTER TIME TO BE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A BULLHORN TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS THAT

>> Antjuan: OR TWITTER! [LAUGHS] >> Lisa: TO ANTJUAN'S POINT, YOU GOT DEMOCRATS GEARING UP TO AND LAUNCH IN THIS OCCASION AFTER INVESTIGATION THE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE REPUBLICANS DOING OVERSIGHT INTO THE FISA WARRANT AGAINST CARTER PAGE AND INTO THE FBI'S ACTIONS WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> Melissa: I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE LEFT HAS THE SAME SUSPICION AND FRUSTRATION ABOUT PAUL MANAFORT AND PAPADOPOULOS AND ALL OF THESE MEETINGS THAT THE RIGHT HAS FRUSTRATION AND SUSPICION ABOUT THE DOSSIER IT'S IRONIC THAT BOTH SIDES DON'T SEE THAT THEY ARE BOTH ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED AND CURIOUS AND MAY BE FEARFUL ABOUT BASICALLY THE SAME THING WHEN TRUMP TALKS ABOUT D CLASSIFYING, AND OTHER SOURCES AND METHODS, IS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT CALL FOR HIM TO JUST GO TESTIFY UNTIL THE TRUTH AND HANG EVERYTHING OUT THERE

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SOLVE ANY OF IT, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO START START — >> Lisa: WHEN YOU SOLVE IT BY TRANSPARENCY, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION OUT — >> Kennedy: NOBODY WANTS TO APPLY THE GOLDEN RULE >> Lisa: WHAT'S THE GOLDEN RULE? >> Kennedy: EXACTLY "DO UNTO OTHERS –" >> Lisa: HOW DO YOU KNOW

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