Neal Katyal: President Donald Trump Tried To Cheat In The 2020 Election | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

>>> TO THE SURPRISE OF NO ONE >>> TO THE SURPRISE OF NO ONE WHO WAS ABLE TO FOG UP A MIRROR, WHO WAS ABLE TO FOG UP A MIRROR, THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WILL NOT THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS WEEK’S PARTICIPATE IN THIS WEEK’S JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING ON A JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING ON A IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT

TODAY BOB BOWER, WHO SERVED AS TODAY BOB BOWER, WHO SERVED AS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL UNDER WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA WROTE AN OP-ED PRESIDENT OBAMA WROTE AN OP-ED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TITLED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TITLED "TRUMP IS THE FOUNDERS’ WORST "TRUMP IS THE FOUNDERS’ WORST NIGHTMARE" NIGHTMARE" HE WHERE I SEE TRUMP HAS REFUSED HE WHERE I SEE TRUMP HAS REFUSED ALL COOPERATION WITH THE HOUSE ALL COOPERATION WITH THE HOUSE AND LIES REPEATEDLY ABOUT THE AND LIES REPEATEDLY ABOUT THE FACTS, HOLDS PUBLIC RALLIES TO FACTS, HOLDS PUBLIC RALLIES TO SPREAD THESE FALSEHOODS AND SPREAD THESE FALSEHOODS AND ATTACKS THE CREDIBILITY, ATTACKS THE CREDIBILITY, MOTIVES, AND EVEN PATRIOTISM OF MOTIVES, AND EVEN PATRIOTISM OF WITNESSES WITNESSES HIS MODE OF ARGUMENT IS PURELY HIS MODE OF ARGUMENT IS PURELY ASSAULTTIVE

ASSAULTTIVE THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE TRUMP THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE TRUMP DEFENSE APPROXIMATE NOT AN DEFENSE APPROXIMATE NOT AN ARGUMENT BUILT ON FACTS IN ARGUMENT BUILT ON FACTS IN SUPPORT OF A CONSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT OF A CONSTITUTIONAL THEORY OF THE CASE THEORY OF THE CASE LET’S TALK ABOUT ALL OF IT LET’S TALK ABOUT ALL OF IT TONIGHT WITH NEAL KATYAL, TONIGHT WITH NEAL KATYAL, VETERAN OF THE JUSTICE VETERAN OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, FORMER ACTING DEPARTMENT, FORMER ACTING SOLICITOR GENERAL FOR OUR SOLICITOR GENERAL FOR OUR GOVERNMENT DURING THE OBAMA GOVERNMENT DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION A MAN WHO HAS ADMINISTRATION A MAN WHO HAS ARGUED 39 CASES BEFORE THE US

ARGUED 39 CASES BEFORE THE US SUPREME COURT AND JUST HAPPENS SUPREME COURT AND JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK TO BE THE AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK NOT YET ONE WEEK OLD NOT YET ONE WEEK OLD IT IS CALLED "IMPEACH: THE CASE IT IS CALLED "IMPEACH: THE CASE AGAINST TRUMP

" AGAINST TRUMP" COUNSELOR IT RAISES AN COUNSELOR IT RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION INTERESTING QUESTION ASIDE FROM SOUND AND FURY AND A ASIDE FROM SOUND AND FURY AND A JACKETLESS JIM JORDAN IN THE JACKETLESS JIM JORDAN IN THE HALLWAY, WHEN WILL THE HALLWAY, WHEN WILL THE REPUBLICANS, WHEN WILL THE REPUBLICANS, WHEN WILL THE PRESIDENT’S TEAM NEED A PRESIDENT’S TEAM NEED A FACT-BASED REJOINDER STRATEGY, FACT-BASED REJOINDER STRATEGY, DEFENSE? DEFENSE? >> I THINK THEY’RE GOING TO >> I THINK THEY’RE GOING TO SOON SOON

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THEIR DEFENSE I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THEIR DEFENSE HAS BEEN ATTACK THE PROCESS, HAS BEEN ATTACK THE PROCESS, ATTACK THE PROCESS, CLAIM IT’S ATTACK THE PROCESS, CLAIM IT’S UNFAIR, WHICH IS FLOUNDERING ON UNFAIR, WHICH IS FLOUNDERING ON ITS OWN TERMS, THAT ARGUMENT ITS OWN TERMS, THAT ARGUMENT BUT THERE HAVEN’T BEEN DEFENDING BUT THERE HAVEN’T BEEN DEFENDING THE PRESIDENT ON THE FACTS THE PRESIDENT ON THE FACTS THE HOUSE TODAY TRIED WITH THIS THE HOUSE TODAY TRIED WITH THIS 123-PAGE REPORT THE ESSENCE OF 123-PAGE REPORT THE ESSENCE OF WHICH IS WHILE THE PRESIDENT WAS WHICH IS WHILE THE PRESIDENT WAS TRYING TO INVESTIGATE TRYING TO INVESTIGATE CORRUPTION, HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION, HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT UKRAINE BEING VERY CORRUPT AND UKRAINE BEING VERY CORRUPT AND THAT’S WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID, THAT’S WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE

WHICH MAKES NO SENSE IF THE PRESIDENT WAS WORRIED THE IF THE PRESIDENT WAS WORRIED THE UKRAINIANS ARE CORRUPT, WHY IS UKRAINIANS ARE CORRUPT, WHY IS HE CALLING THE UKRAINIANS AND HE CALLING THE UKRAINIANS AND ASKING THEM TO INVESTIGATE A ASKING THEM TO INVESTIGATE A UNITED STATES CITIZEN, JOE UNITED STATES CITIZEN, JOE BIDEN? BIDEN? THE WHOLE THING — THIS IS JUST THE WHOLE THING — THIS IS JUST THEIR LATEST FACTUAL DEFENSE, THEIR LATEST FACTUAL DEFENSE, ALL OF THEM HAVE FLOPPED ALL OF THEM HAVE FLOPPED I DO THINK AS THE PRESSURE IS I DO THINK AS THE PRESSURE IS GOING TO BUILD ON THEM BECAUSE GOING TO BUILD ON THEM BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY DID THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY DID SOMETHING WRONG SOMETHING WRONG

I MEAN, NOT JUST WRONG, I MEAN, I MEAN, NOT JUST WRONG, I MEAN, GRIEVOUSLY WRONG GRIEVOUSLY WRONG HE TRIED TO CHEAT IN THE 2020 HE TRIED TO CHEAT IN THE 2020 ELECTION ELECTION HE TRIED TO GET A LEG UP BY HE TRIED TO GET A LEG UP BY GETTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT TO GO GETTING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT TO GO AND GET DIRT ON HIS CHIEF AND GET DIRT ON HIS CHIEF POLITICAL RIVAL, JOE BIDEN

POLITICAL RIVAL, JOE BIDEN THAT IS SOMETHING — THIS IS WHY THAT IS SOMETHING — THIS IS WHY I WROTE THE BOOK FROM THE I WROTE THE BOOK FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE FOUNDERS STANDPOINT OF THE FOUNDERS THERE ONE OR TWO A BETTER THERE ONE OR TWO A BETTER EXAMPLE OF A HIGH CRIME AND EXAMPLE OF A HIGH CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR THAN THIS MISDEMEANOR THAN THIS

>> ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH ALL >> ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH ALL THE KIND OF MOMENTUM THAT CAME THE KIND OF MOMENTUM THAT CAME FROM THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE FROM THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HEARINGS, WE’LL BE IN THE HEARINGS, WE’LL BE IN THE STUDIO, 10:00 AM STUDIO, 10:00 AM WE WILL GO ON THE AIR FOR THE WE WILL GO ON THE AIR FOR THE OPENING GAVEL OF THE HOUSE OPENING GAVEL OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND NO DISRESPECT TO LEGAL AND NO DISRESPECT TO LEGAL ADMISSIONS, WE WILL HEAR FROM ADMISSIONS, WE WILL HEAR FROM FOUR LEGAL ADEM MISSIONS, IF NOT FOUR LEGAL ADEM MISSIONS, IF NOT NECESSARILY TV FORWARD HOW NECESSARILY TV FORWARD HOW TRADITIONAL A START IS THIS IN A TRADITIONAL A START IS THIS IN A HEARING LIKE THIS? HEARING LIKE THIS? >> VERY TRADITIONAL, BRIAN >> VERY TRADITIONAL, BRIAN I DON’T THINK THAT IT’S GOING TO I DON’T THINK THAT IT’S GOING TO CAPTURE THE PUBLIC’S IMAGINATION CAPTURE THE PUBLIC’S IMAGINATION AND ATTENTION JUST BECAUSE IT IS AND ATTENTION JUST BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF DRY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW KIND OF DRY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW WORK WORK

I TAUGHT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW FOR I TAUGHT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW FOR 20 YEARS 20 YEARS I TEND TO THINK THIS IS NOT I TEND TO THINK THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST EXCITING GOING TO BE THE MOST EXCITING THING THING THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE THREE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SAY, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE HEY, THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE, THEY’RE DEMOCRATIC OFFENSE, THEY’RE DEMOCRATIC WITNESSES, ONE WILL BE A WITNESSES, ONE WILL BE A REPUBLICAN WITNESS SAYING IT’S REPUBLICAN WITNESS SAYING IT’S NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE

NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE GOOD LUCK TO THAT PERSON GOOD LUCK TO THAT PERSON I CAN’T REALLY FATHOM THE I CAN’T REALLY FATHOM THE ARGUMENT ARGUMENT

BUT GOOD LUCK BUT GOOD LUCK AND THEN I THINK IT MOVES TO AND THEN I THINK IT MOVES TO REALLY THE ULTIMATE QUESTION, REALLY THE ULTIMATE QUESTION, WHAT’S THE HOUSE GOING TO DO? WHAT’S THE HOUSE GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE THOSE ARTICLES OF WHAT ARE THOSE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IMPEACHMENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IF THEY’RE DRAFTED? IF THEY’RE DRAFTED? HOW MANY ARE THEY? HOW MANY ARE THEY? ARE THEY GOING TO INCLUDE THE ARE THEY GOING TO INCLUDE THE MUELLER STUFF? MUELLER STUFF? TODAY WE HAD A TWIST IN THAT TODAY WE HAD A TWIST IN THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE BEEN BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE BEEN SAYING, LOOK, UKRAINE’S REALLY SAYING, LOOK, UKRAINE’S REALLY SIMPLE, STRIPPED DOWN SIMPLE, STRIPPED DOWN GO, FIGHT, BRING THAT FORWARD AS GO, FIGHT, BRING THAT FORWARD AS FAST AS YOU CAN

FAST AS YOU CAN BUT A JUDGE IN DC TODAY IN THE BUT A JUDGE IN DC

TODAY IN THE DON McGAHN CASE SAID, WELL, DON McGAHN CASE SAID, WELL, McGAHN HAS TO TESTIFY AND McGAHN HAS TO TESTIFY AND TESTIFY NOW BECAUSE THE HOUSE TESTIFY NOW BECAUSE THE HOUSE MAY NEED HIS INFORMATION FOR MAY NEED HIS INFORMATION FOR IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT YES, THAT DECISION — THE TRUMP YES, THAT DECISION — THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S GOING TO TRY TO ADMINISTRATION’S GOING TO TRY TO PUT IT ON HOLD BY GOING UP TO PUT IT ON HOLD BY GOING UP TO THE US SUPREME COURT

THE US SUPREME COURT BUT NOT JUST McGAHN BUT OTHER BUT NOT JUST McGAHN BUT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE POMPEO AND BOLTON PEOPLE LIKE POMPEO AND BOLTON MAY HAVE TO TESTIFY SOONER MAY HAVE TO TESTIFY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER RATHER THAN LATER

IF THAT’S SO, THEN THAT COULD IF THAT’S SO, THEN THAT COULD CHANGE THE DYNAMICS CHANGE THE DYNAMICS SO I THINK THE HOUSE JUDICIARY SO I THINK THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY IS IMPORTANT NOT FOR WHAT THE IS IMPORTANT NOT FOR WHAT THE WITNESSES SAY, BUT WHAT’S THE WITNESSES SAY, BUT WHAT’S THE HOUSE SAYING? HOUSE SAYING? WHAT’S THE DEMOCRATIC STRATEGY

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