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THAT BEFORE I PETUT >>> DID HE ALSO NONGS MEMENTION >>> DID HE ALSO NONGS MEMENTION THE PAST THE CORRUPTION OF THE THE PAST THE CORRUPTION OF THE DNC SERVER? DNC SERVER? ABSOLUTELY, NO QUESTION ABOUT ABSOLUTELY, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT THAT

BUT THAT’S IT, THAT’S WHY WE BUT THAT’S IT, THAT’S WHY WE HELD UP THE MONEY HELD UP THE MONEY >> SO THE DEMAND FOR AN >> SO THE DEMAND FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE DEMOCRATS INVESTIGATION INTO THE DEMOCRATS WAS PART OF THE REASON THAT HE WAS PART OF THE REASON THAT HE WAS WITHHOLDING FUNDING TO WAS WITHHOLDING FUNDING TO UKRAINE UKRAINE >> THE LOOK BACK TO WHAT >> THE LOOK BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 WAS CERTAINLY HAPPENED IN 2016 WAS CERTAINLY PART OF THE THING HE WAS WORRIED PART OF THE THING HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT WITH CORRUPTION WITH THAT ABOUT WITH CORRUPTION WITH THAT NATION

NATION THAT’S APPROPRIATE THAT’S APPROPRIATE >> WITHHOLDING THE FUNDING? >> WITHHOLDING THE FUNDING? >> YEAH >> YEAH

>> LET’S BE CLEAR, WHAT YOU JUST >> LET’S BE CLEAR, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS A QUID PRO QUO DESCRIBED IS A QUID PRO QUO IT IS FUNDING WILL NOT FLOW IT IS FUNDING WILL NOT FLOW UNLESS THE INVESTIGATION INTO UNLESS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE — INTO THE DEMOCRATIC THE — INTO THE DEMOCRATIC SERVER HAPPENED AS WELL SERVER HAPPENED AS WELL >> WE DO — WE DO THAT ALL THE >> WE DO — WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME WITH FOREIGN POLICY

TIME WITH FOREIGN POLICY GET OVER IT GET OVER IT THERE’S GOING TO BE POLITICAL THERE’S GOING TO BE POLITICAL INFLUENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY INFLUENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY

>> GET OVER IT, SAID THE ACTING >> GET OVER IT, SAID THE ACTING WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MICK WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MICK MULVANEY INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE MULVANEY INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING ROOM JUST LAST MONTH BRIEFING ROOM JUST LAST MONTH ADMITTING PRESIDENT TRUMP ADMITTING PRESIDENT TRUMP WITHHELD MILITARY AID IN ORDER WITHHELD MILITARY AID IN ORDER TO PRESSURE UKRAINE TO CONDUCT TO PRESSURE UKRAINE TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE BIDENS INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE BIDENS AND INTO A 2016 CAMPAIGN AND INTO A 2016 CAMPAIGN CONSPIRACY THEORY CONSPIRACY THEORY MULVANEY AFTER HEARING FROM THE MULVANEY AFTER HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT LATER WALKED BACK PRESIDENT LATER WALKED BACK THOSE TELEVISED COMMENTS THOSE TELEVISED COMMENTS WE LEARNED OVERNIGHT THAT THE WE LEARNED OVERNIGHT THAT THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS SUBPOENAED MULVANEY TO APPEAR ON SUBPOENAED MULVANEY TO APPEAR ON CAPITOL HILL AND TO TESTIFY CAPITOL HILL AND TO TESTIFY TODAY, THIS MORNING, AS PART OF TODAY, THIS MORNING, AS PART OF THE IMPEACHMENT PROBE

THE IMPEACHMENT PROBE MULVANEY, LIKE SEVERAL OTHERS IN MULVANEY, LIKE SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IS NOT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IS NOT EXPECTED TO SHOW UP FOR THAT EXPECTED TO SHOW UP FOR THAT DEPOSITION DEPOSITION LET’S BRING IN NATIONAL LET’S BRING IN NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER FOR AXIOS, POLITICAL REPORTER FOR AXIOS, JONATHAN SWANN JONATHAN SWANN

GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS SUBPOENA LAST NIGHT SUBPOENA LAST NIGHT HOW DID THE INTEL COMMITTEE HOW DID THE INTEL COMMITTEE DECIDE TO DROP IT SO LATE AND DECIDE TO DROP IT SO LATE AND ASK MULVANEY TO APPEAR AT 9:00 ASK MULVANEY TO APPEAR AT 9:00 THIS MORNING WHICH HE PROBABLY THIS MORNING WHICH HE PROBABLY WILL NOT DO? WILL NOT DO? >> IT’S NOT DESIGNED TO GET HIM >> IT’S NOT DESIGNED TO GET HIM IN

IN THIS IS JUST BUILDING A CASE FOR THIS IS JUST BUILDING A CASE FOR ADDING ANOTHER ARTICLE OF ADDING ANOTHER ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT AROUND OBSTRUCTION IMPEACHMENT AROUND OBSTRUCTION AND, OF COURSE, MICK MULVANEY IS AND, OF COURSE, MICK MULVANEY IS NOT THE FIRST WHITE HOUSE NOT THE FIRST WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL TO REFUSE TO COME AND OFFICIAL TO REFUSE TO COME AND TESTIFY TESTIFY

WE’VE HAD HIS OWN AID ROB BLAIR, WE’VE HAD HIS OWN AID ROB BLAIR, WE’VE HAD THE NATIONAL SECURITY WE’VE HAD THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL LAWYERS MIKE ALECHAEL EL COUNCIL LAWYERS MIKE ALECHAEL EL JOHN BOLTON JOHN BOLTON IT’S THE EXCEPTIONS THAT GO AND IT’S THE EXCEPTIONS THAT GO AND TESTIFY LIKE TIM MORRISON OVER TESTIFY LIKE TIM MORRISON OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE WHITE THE OBJECTIONS OF THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL THAT HAVE BEEN HOUSE COUNSEL THAT HAVE BEEN CLEAR ABOUT IT CLEAR ABOUT IT I THINK THIS IS PART OF ADAM I THINK THIS IS PART OF ADAM SCHIFF BUILDING AN ARGUMENT, SCHIFF BUILDING AN ARGUMENT, SHOWING THE DEFIANCE, AND THEN SHOWING THE DEFIANCE, AND THEN POTENTIALLY ADDING ANOTHER POTENTIALLY ADDING ANOTHER ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT

ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT >> AND WHAT WOULD MICK MULVANEY >> AND WHAT WOULD MICK MULVANEY SAY WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THAT SAY WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THAT VIDEOTAPE? VIDEOTAPE? YOU ADMITTED IT ON CAMERA, IT’S YOU ADMITTED IT ON CAMERA, IT’S NOT A SLIP OF THE TONGUE NOT A SLIP OF THE TONGUE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR HIM UNDER SWORN TESTIMONY HIM UNDER SWORN TESTIMONY EXPLAIN WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT EXPLAIN WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT COMMENT AND THEN LATER CHANGING COMMENT AND THEN LATER CHANGING IT IT

I WAS LISTENING TO YOU EARLY I WAS LISTENING TO YOU EARLY THIS MORNING, JONATHAN, TALKING THIS MORNING, JONATHAN, TALKING ABOUT HOW THE WHITE HOUSE IS ABOUT HOW THE WHITE HOUSE IS FEELING ABOUT THE WAY THE FEELING ABOUT THE WAY THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS PROCEEDING AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN PROCEEDING AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WHEN THIS — IF IT GETS TO THE WHEN THIS — IF IT GETS TO THE SENATE TO THOSE REPUBLICAN SENATE TO THOSE REPUBLICAN JURORS JURORS LISTENING TO THEM ONE BY ONE LISTENING TO THEM ONE BY ONE MAKE UP NEW EXCUSES AND NEW MAKE UP NEW EXCUSES AND NEW DISTRACTIONS FOR THE PRESIDENT’S DISTRACTIONS FOR THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR, IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE BEHAVIOR, IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO MOVE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO MOVE OFF THEIR VOTES IN SUPPORT OF OFF THEIR VOTES IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT THE PRESIDENT >> THEY’RE IN A — I MEAN, YOU >> THEY’RE IN A — I MEAN, YOU JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT REALITY FOR JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT REALITY FOR WHAT IT IS

WHAT IT IS THEY’RE IN A VERY STRONG THEY’RE IN A VERY STRONG POSITION, THE WHITE HOUSE IS POSITION, THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOT BECAUSE OF ANY GRAND NOT BECAUSE OF ANY GRAND STRATEGY OR FOUR DIMENSIONAL STRATEGY OR FOUR DIMENSIONAL CHESS OR WAR ROOMS OR ANYTHING CHESS OR WAR ROOMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE LIKE THAT, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BUDGED THESE NOTHING HAS BUDGED THESE SENATORS, NOTHING HAS MOVED SENATORS, NOTHING HAS MOVED THEM THEM

YOU DID A SEGMENT ON JEFF YOU DID A SEGMENT ON JEFF SESSIONS WHICH KIND OF SAYS IT SESSIONS WHICH KIND OF SAYS IT ALL ALL >> YEAH >> YEAH >> AND HONESTLY, I THINK THE >> AND HONESTLY, I THINK THE MORE — LIKE WE’VE BEEN TALKING MORE — LIKE WE’VE BEEN TALKING WHO COULD THE 20 BE THAT DEFINE WHO COULD THE 20 BE THAT DEFINE HIM? HIM? I THINK A SCENARIO WE NEED TO I THINK A SCENARIO WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IS ZERO

SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IS ZERO THERE’S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT THERE’S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT CHANCE THAT ZERO REPUBLICAN CHANCE THAT ZERO REPUBLICAN SENATORS DEFECT IF NOTHING NEW SENATORS DEFECT IF NOTHING NEW COMES OUT AND WE’VE GOT THE COMES OUT AND WE’VE GOT THE CURRENT SET OF FACTS THAT WE’RE CURRENT SET OF FACTS THAT WE’RE DEALING WITH DEALING WITH I MEAN, WE INTERVIEWED MITT I MEAN, WE INTERVIEWED MITT ROMNEY AND HE IS SUPPOSEDLY THE ROMNEY AND HE IS SUPPOSEDLY THE WEAKEST BRICK IN THE RED WALL WEAKEST BRICK IN THE RED WALL

I MEAN, HE’S NOT THERE YET I MEAN, HE’S NOT THERE YET I MEAN, AND JUST BASED ON THE I MEAN, AND JUST BASED ON THE INTERVIEW WE DID WITH HIM, IF INTERVIEW WE DID WITH HIM, IF HE’S THE WEAKEST BRICK THAT RED HE’S THE WEAKEST BRICK THAT RED WALL, IT’S A PRETTY STRONG WALL WALL, IT’S A PRETTY STRONG WALL OVER THERE IN THE SENATE OVER THERE IN THE SENATE EVEN THOUGH PRIVATELY AND AS GUY EVEN THOUGH PRIVATELY AND AS GUY SAID, WHO CARES, PRIVATELY THEY SAID, WHO CARES, PRIVATELY THEY ALL — NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A ALL — NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A LOT THEM DESPISE THE PRESIDENT, LOT THEM DESPISE THE PRESIDENT, SAY THAT THEY — YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THAT THEY — YOU KNOW, THEY WISH THEY COULD POLITICALLY GET WISH THEY COULD POLITICALLY GET AWAY WITH REPLACING HIM WITH AWAY WITH REPLACING HIM WITH MIKE PENCE

MIKE PENCE BUT NONE OF THAT MATTERS BECAUSE BUT NONE OF THAT MATTERS BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THINGS IN WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THINGS IN PUBLIC AND THE VOTE, THEY STEP PUBLIC AND THE VOTE, THEY STEP IN LINE IN LINE >> YOU KNOW, WILLIE, IT REALLY >> YOU KNOW, WILLIE, IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO AND, DONNY, DOES COME DOWN TO AND, DONNY, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN HERE AS FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN HERE AS WELL, IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN WELL, IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO ONE THING TO ONE THING

HIS APPROVAL RATINGS HIS APPROVAL RATINGS HIS APPROVAL RATINGS AMONG HIS APPROVAL RATINGS AMONG REPUBLICANS, BUT ALSO THESE REPUBLICANS, BUT ALSO THESE NUMBERS THAT WE’VE BEEN SHOWING NUMBERS THAT WE’VE BEEN SHOWING THAT WERE IN THE 30s, NOW THAT WERE IN THE 30s, NOW THEY’RE SITTING AT 50, 51% THEY’RE SITTING AT 50, 51% AMERICANS SUPPORTING THE AMERICANS SUPPORTING THE IMPEACHMENT AND THE REMOVAL OF IMPEACHMENT AND THE REMOVAL OF DONALD TRUMP DONALD TRUMP IF THOSE NUMBERS GO UP TO 55, IF THOSE NUMBERS GO UP TO 55, 60% THAT PEOPLE — AFTER SEEING 60% THAT PEOPLE — AFTER SEEING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND I’M THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND I’M CERTAINLY NOT SAYING IT IS, I’M CERTAINLY NOT SAYING IT IS, I’M JUST SAYING THIS IS VERY SIMPLE JUST SAYING THIS IS VERY SIMPLE CALCULATION

CALCULATION WE CAN’T PREDICT WHO’S GOING TO WE CAN’T PREDICT WHO’S GOING TO SUPPORT HIM AND WHO’S NOT GOING SUPPORT HIM AND WHO’S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT HIM TO SUPPORT HIM BUT, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT IF BUT, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT IF AT THE END OF THE TESTIMONY 60% AT THE END OF THE TESTIMONY 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN COLORADO AND OF THE PEOPLE IN COLORADO AND MAINE AND ARIZONA AND IN SOME OF MAINE AND ARIZONA AND IN SOME OF THESE STATES, NEBRASKA AND SOME THESE STATES, NEBRASKA AND SOME OF THESE STATES WHERE CANDIDATES OF THESE STATES WHERE CANDIDATES IN HIDING, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN HIDING, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN HIDING, IF 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN HIDING, IF 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES SUPPORT IN THOSE STATES SUPPORT IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL, THEN, IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL, THEN, OF COURSE, YOU’LL PROBABLY SEE A OF COURSE, YOU’LL PROBABLY SEE A CRACK IN THAT WALL CRACK IN THAT WALL

BUT AS LONG AS WE’RE SITTING AT BUT AS LONG AS WE’RE SITTING AT THE NUMBERS WE’RE SITTING AT THE NUMBERS WE’RE SITTING AT HERE, IT’S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HERE, IT’S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HAPPEN >> NO, I DON’T THINK SO >> NO, I DON’T THINK SO AND AS JONATHAN SAYS, THE AND AS JONATHAN SAYS, THE STORIES ABOUT SENATORS QUIETLY STORIES ABOUT SENATORS QUIETLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT ARE GETTING EXHAUSTING AND ARE GETTING EXHAUSTING AND BECOMING THOROUGHLY EYE ROLLING BECOMING THOROUGHLY EYE ROLLING THAT, DONNY, THEY SAY IF YOU THAT, DONNY, THEY SAY IF YOU TOOK A SECRET BALLOT, 35 TOOK A SECRET BALLOT, 35 REPUBLICANS WOULD VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS WOULD VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT

IMPEACHMENT BUT AT THIS POINT NOT A SINGLE BUT AT THIS POINT NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WOULD VOTE FOR IT ONE OF THEM WOULD VOTE FOR IT PUBLIC PUBLIC >> I WE’LL GO BACK TO THAT >> I WE’LL GO BACK TO THAT MANHOOD THING MANHOOD THING

IT’S — I JUST — EVERYTHING I IT’S — I JUST — EVERYTHING I DON’T UNDERSTAND ABOUT DON’T UNDERSTAND ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY COMES UP HERE THAT PSYCHOLOGY COMES UP HERE THAT HOW THESE MEN LOOK AT THEIR HOW THESE MEN LOOK AT THEIR FAMILIES, LOOK AT THEIR FAMILIES, LOOK AT THEIR CHILDREN CHILDREN I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO DO GOING THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE EVEN IF SOME OF THEM TO DO EVEN IF SOME OF THEM TO DO SWITCH, IT’S STILL AN INSANE SWITCH, IT’S STILL AN INSANE LONG SHOT TO THINK THAT 20 OF LONG SHOT TO THINK THAT 20 OF THEM ARE GOING TO SWITCH THEM ARE GOING TO SWITCH WE’RE GOING TO BE LEFT IN WE’RE GOING TO BE LEFT IN JANUARY WHERE THE HOUSE JANUARY WHERE THE HOUSE IMPEACHED HIM, THE SENATE DIDN’T IMPEACHED HIM, THE SENATE DIDN’T THROW HIM OUT AND WE’RE BACK TO THROW HIM OUT AND WE’RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE

SQUARE ONE WHICH IS SO NOORN THEY’VE GOTIMP WHICH IS SO NOORN THEY’VE GOTIMP THEY’VE GOT TO FRAME THESE THEY’VE GOT TO FRAME THESE HEARINGS WHERE YOU’RE LEFT WITH HEARINGS WHERE YOU’RE LEFT WITH KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES IF THE WHOLE THING IS ABOUT IF THE WHOLE THING IS ABOUT EXTORTION OR BETRAYAL OR EXTORTION OR BETRAYAL OR CRIMINALITY, YOU HAVE TO BRING CRIMINALITY, YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK, OKAY, AND YOU WILL THAT BACK, OKAY, AND YOU WILL EXTORT YOUR HEALTHCARE ALSO THE EXTORT YOUR HEALTHCARE ALSO THE OR IF IT’S ABOUT — THAT’S THE OR IF IT’S ABOUT — THAT’S THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE’RE LEFT IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE’RE LEFT WITH WITH

THIS IS A HALO EFFECT, IT’S NOT THIS IS A HALO EFFECT, IT’S NOT AN ISOLATED THING AN ISOLATED THING IT’S AN INDICATIVE THING OF HOW IT’S AN INDICATIVE THING OF HOW HE CHEATS AND STEALS AND BETRAYS HE CHEATS AND STEALS AND BETRAYS YOU JUST LIKE HE BETRAYED YOU ON YOU JUST LIKE HE BETRAYED YOU ON A NATIONAL SECURITY, HE’LL A NATIONAL SECURITY, HE’LL BETRAY YOU ON HEALTHCARE, HE’LL BETRAY YOU ON HEALTHCARE, HE’LL BETRAY YOU ON WAGES BETRAY YOU ON WAGES YOU HAVE TO SET THE STAGE

YOU HAVE TO SET THE STAGE YOU CAN’T LOOK AT THIS — YOU CAN’T LOOK AT THIS — DEMOCRATS HAVE GORTT TO START DEMOCRATS HAVE GORTT TO START FRAMING THIS AS AN OVERALL FRAMING THIS AS AN OVERALL BRANDING BRANDING >> BUT THERE’S A SPECIFIC CHARGE >> BUT THERE’S A SPECIFIC CHARGE HERE THAT’S NOT HARD TO EXPLAIN, HERE THAT’S NOT HARD TO EXPLAIN, THE PRESIDENT USED HIS POLITICAL THE PRESIDENT USED HIS POLITICAL POWER FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL AGAIN POWER FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL AGAIN BENN FIT, THAT SHOULDN’T BE HARD BENN FIT, THAT SHOULDN’T BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND TO UNDERSTAND

>> ABUSE OF POWER, THAT NEEDS TO >> ABUSE OF POWER, THAT NEEDS TO BE THE MESSAGE OVER AND OVER AND BE THE MESSAGE OVER AND OVER AND OVER BECAUSE THAT IS VERY EASY OVER BECAUSE THAT IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND TO UNDERSTAND >> THAT’S THE TYPE OF THEME — >> THAT’S THE TYPE OF THEME — >> ONLY PART THAT MATTERS >> ONLY PART THAT MATTERS >> BUT IT’S ABUSE OF POWER AND >> BUT IT’S ABUSE OF POWER AND THE SAME WAY HE’S GOING TO TAKE THE SAME WAY HE’S GOING TO TAKE 20 MILLION PEOPLE’S HEALTH 20 MILLION PEOPLE’S HEALTH INSURANCE AWAY, ABUSE OF POWER, INSURANCE AWAY, ABUSE OF POWER, IT’S THE SAME WAY HE’S GOING TO IT’S THE SAME WAY HE’S GOING TO DO ANOTHER TAX CUT FOR THE RICH

DO ANOTHER TAX CUT FOR THE RICH HE BETRAYED YOU, HE’S ABUSING HE BETRAYED YOU, HE’S ABUSING THE OFFICE THE OFFICE CIT SET CIT SET SET THE STAGE SET THE STAGE

>> WE’LL DIG IN THE GNAWNEW >> WE’LL DIG IN THE GNAWNEW TESTIMONY OF GEORGE KENT THE AT TESTIMONY OF GEORGE KENT THE AT THE TIED PRESIDENT TRUMP TO A THE TIED PRESIDENT TRUMP TO A QUID PRO QUO AND DISCUSSED QUID PRO QUO AND DISCUSSED VLADIMIR PUTIN’S INFLUENCE OVER VLADIMIR PUTIN’S INFLUENCE OVER THE PRESIDENT ON MATTERS THE PRESIDENT ON MATTERS INCLUDING UKRAINE INCLUDING UKRAINE "MORNING JOE’S" BACK IN A

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