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UKRAINE WAS WEIRD AND WHEN YOU LOST MATT GAETZ, AND WHEN YOU LOST MATT GAETZ, YOU KNOW YOU’RE IN TROUBLE

YOU KNOW YOU’RE IN TROUBLE >> LOST MATT GAETZ? >> LOST MATT GAETZ? THAT’S A BAD SIGN THAT’S A BAD SIGN >> YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE BY LINES >> YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE BY LINES TODAY, HOW AN EX-MAYOR LEDS A TODAY, HOW AN EX-MAYOR LEDS A PRESIDENT TO THE BRINK OF PRESIDENT TO THE BRINK OF IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT

WHEN YOU READ THE ENTIRE PIECE, WHEN YOU READ THE ENTIRE PIECE, IT’S QUITE LENGTHY IT’S QUITE LENGTHY >> YEAH >> YEAH >> IT’S KIND OF PATHETIC

>> IT’S KIND OF PATHETIC HERE’S A GUY WHO IS MAYOR OF NEW HERE’S A GUY WHO IS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY, EVERYONE REMEMBERS YORK CITY, EVERYONE REMEMBERS HIM ON SEPTEMBER 11th IN WHICH HIM ON SEPTEMBER 11th IN WHICH HE DID A HEROIC JOB THAT DAY AND HE DID A HEROIC JOB THAT DAY AND IN THE DAYS ENSUING IN THE DAYS ENSUING HE IS NOW CLAIM CLAMBERING FOR T HE IS NOW CLAIM CLAMBERING FOR T SPOTLIGHT SPOTLIGHT

AND IF HE PUTS TOGETHER THIS AND IF HE PUTS TOGETHER THIS REPORT THAT HE’S SUPPOSEDLY REPORT THAT HE’S SUPPOSEDLY DOING IN THE UKRAINE, MAYBE, DOING IN THE UKRAINE, MAYBE, DAVE, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS DAVE, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS WHAT DOES DOE WITH THEHE DO WITH WHAT DOES DOE WITH THEHE DO WITH WHO DOES HE GIVE IT TO AND WHO DOES HE GIVE IT TO AND WHAT’S TO BE DONE WITH IT? WHAT’S TO BE DONE WITH IT? >> THAT SHOWS HE’S NOT REALLY A >> THAT SHOWS HE’S NOT REALLY A PRIVATE CITIZEN IF HE HAS THE PRIVATE CITIZEN IF HE HAS THE POWER TO GIVE THE ATTORNEY POWER TO GIVE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DIRECTLY A REPORT OR GENERAL DIRECTLY A REPORT OR CONGRESS A REPORT AND THEN THEY CONGRESS A REPORT AND THEN THEY ACT ON IT ACT ON IT RUDY’S TRIP TO UKRAINE RUDY’S TRIP TO UKRAINE UNDERMINES THE NARRATIVE FOR THE UNDERMINES THE NARRATIVE FOR THE REPUBLICANS THAT WE SHOULD JUST REPUBLICANS THAT WE SHOULD JUST WAIT UNTIL 2020 AND THE WAIT UNTIL 2020 AND THE ELECTIONS TO DECIDE TRUMP’S ELECTIONS TO DECIDE TRUMP’S FATE

FATE DON’T DO IT THROUGH IMPEACHMENT DON’T DO IT THROUGH IMPEACHMENT BY CONGRESS BECAUSE, REMEMBER, BY CONGRESS BECAUSE, REMEMBER, GIULIANI’S IN UKRAINE TO TRY TO GIULIANI’S IN UKRAINE TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INTERFERENCE ENCOURAGE FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2020 ELECTIONS IN THE 2020 ELECTIONS WHICH SHOWS WHY THE IMPEACHMENT WHICH SHOWS WHY THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS WERE NECESSARY HEARINGS WERE NECESSARY

>> REV, YOU KNOW, WE GREW UP IN >> REV, YOU KNOW, WE GREW UP IN THIS CITY WITH GIULIANI AS MAYOR THIS CITY WITH GIULIANI AS MAYOR AND, YES, MIKE, FOR A FEW DAYS AND, YES, MIKE, FOR A FEW DAYS HE DID DO SOMETHING HEROICALLY HE DID DO SOMETHING HEROICALLY FOR THE CITY FOR THE CITY YET, HE TRADED ON IT FROM IS YET, HE TRADED ON IT FROM IS THERE ON THERE ON AND ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THIS AND ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THIS TOWN KNOWS THAT HE EXPLOITED TOWN KNOWS THAT HE EXPLOITED 9/11

9/11 YOU KNOW, I DON’T EVEN WANT TO YOU KNOW, I DON’T EVEN WANT TO GIVE HIM THAT BECAUSE IN THE GIVE HIM THAT BECAUSE IN THE YEARS TO COME, IN THE MOST YEARS TO COME, IN THE MOST SELF-SERVING WAY, HE EXPLOITED SELF-SERVING WAY, HE EXPLOITED THE GREATEST TRAGEDY THAT WE THE GREATEST TRAGEDY THAT WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH HAVE LIVED THROUGH AND NEW YORKERS — AND NEW YORKERS — >> WAIT, WAIT, I CAN’T — I >> WAIT, WAIT, I CAN’T — I CAN’T LET YOU SAY THAT ON MY CAN’T LET YOU SAY THAT ON MY SHOW SHOW

>> JOE, YOU CAN LET ME SAY IT >> JOE, YOU CAN LET ME SAY IT >> IF YOU’VE GOT ISSUES — >> IF YOU’VE GOT ISSUES — >> IT’S NOT TRUE >> IT’S NOT TRUE >> IF YOU’VE GOT ISSUES WITH >> IF YOU’VE GOT ISSUES WITH RUDY GIULIANI, TAKE UP THOSE RUDY GIULIANI, TAKE UP THOSE ISSUES WITH RUDY GIULIANI AND ISSUES WITH RUDY GIULIANI AND WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW

WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW I KNOW FOR MYSELF AND FOR A LOT I KNOW FOR MYSELF AND FOR A LOT OF AMERICANS WHEN GEORGE BUSH OF AMERICANS WHEN GEORGE BUSH WAS STUMBLING THE FIRST WEEK, IT WAS STUMBLING THE FIRST WEEK, IT WAS RUDY WHO STEPPED INTO THE WAS RUDY WHO STEPPED INTO THE VOID VOID IT WASN’T UNTIL — IT WASN’T UNTIL — >> I’M NOT TALK ABOUT THE FIRST >> I’M NOT TALK ABOUT THE FIRST WEEK WEEK

I’M TALKING TO ME — I’M TALKING TO ME — >> GO AHEAD, JOE >> GO AHEAD, JOE >> LET’S JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT’S >> LET’S JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON NOW AND DON’T BRING UP GOING ON NOW AND DON’T BRING UP 9/11 9/11 IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RUDY, I IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RUDY, I SAY THAT MAKES IT MORE OF A SAY THAT MAKES IT MORE OF A TRAGEDY THAT RUDY GIULIANI, TRAGEDY THAT RUDY GIULIANI, ALONG WITH THE GREAT PEOPLE OF ALONG WITH THE GREAT PEOPLE OF NEW YORK CITY AND A GREAT POLICE NEW YORK CITY AND A GREAT POLICE COMMISSIONER TURNED THIS CITY COMMISSIONER TURNED THIS CITY AROUND IN ’93 AND ’94 AND ’95 AROUND IN ’93 AND ’94 AND ’95 AND ’96

AND ’96 I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WE CAN TALK — I CAN TELL YOU WE CAN TALK — I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I BELIEVE ABOUT 9:11 WHAT I BELIEVE ABOUT 9:11

I THINK I THINK 9/11 9/11 I THINK THAT MAKES WHAT’S GOING I THINK THAT MAKES WHAT’S GOING ON THE LAST THREE YEARS — ON THE LAST THREE YEARS — >> I DON’T USUALLY ZBLUPT YESINT >> I DON’T USUALLY ZBLUPT YESINT >> WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE >> WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE BECAUSE I THINK HE SHOWED A LOT BECAUSE I THINK HE SHOWED A LOT OF HIS SOUL AFTER THAT OF HIS SOUL AFTER THAT HE WAS HIGHLY UNPOPULAR BY THE HE WAS HIGHLY UNPOPULAR BY THE TIME HE LEFT OFFICE, HIGHLY

TIME HE LEFT OFFICE, HIGHLY HE DID HIS JOB, THOSE DAYS, BUT HE DID HIS JOB, THOSE DAYS, BUT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS AND FOR MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS AND YEARS AFTERWARDS, I FELT YEARS AFTERWARDS, I FELT WE CAN GIS DISAGREE WE CAN GIS DISAGREE

>> THERE WAS NO ONE MORE >> THERE WAS NO ONE MORE CRITICAL OF RUDY GIULIANI THAN CRITICAL OF RUDY GIULIANI THAN ME, NO ONE LED MORE MARCHES ME, NO ONE LED MORE MARCHES BUT THINK WHAT HE AND BUSH DID BUT THINK WHAT HE AND BUSH DID DURING 9/11 WHICH WE WERE ALL DURING 9/11 WHICH WE WERE ALL PETRIFIED WAS NEEDED PETRIFIED WAS NEEDED I WAS NEVER CRITICAL OF HIM IN I WAS NEVER CRITICAL OF HIM IN TERMS OF 9/11

TERMS OF 9/11 AND SHOCKINGLY THE CITY CAME AND SHOCKINGLY THE CITY CAME TOGETHER TOGETHER NOW, DID HE DO HIS JOB? NOW, DID HE DO HIS JOB? YES YES

BUT I WOULD NOT ATTACK THAT BUT I WOULD NOT ATTACK THAT WHAT HE’S DOING NOW, THOUGH, I WHAT HE’S DOING NOW, THOUGH, I THINK HAS ZISDISGRACED HIM AND T THINK HAS ZISDISGRACED HIM AND T POTENTIAL LEGACY HE COULD HAVE POTENTIAL LEGACY HE COULD HAVE HAD IN THIS DIVISIVE RUDE DHA WE HAD IN THIS DIVISIVE RUDE DHA WE KNOW IS THE RUDE DHA WETHAT WE K KNOW IS THE RUDE DHA WETHAT WE K THAT WOULD USE ANYTHING TO HIS THAT WOULD USE ANYTHING TO HIS ADVANTAGE THAT WE KNEW PRE AND ADVANTAGE THAT WE KNEW PRE AND POST-9/11 POST-9/11 9/11 STANDS ALONE BECAUSE WE DID 9/11 STANDS ALONE BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER NOT KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER ATTACK COMING IN THOSE HOURS ATTACK COMING IN THOSE HOURS SITTING THERE WITH NO CELL PHONE SITTING THERE WITH NO CELL PHONE USE NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE USE NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE UNDER IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE UNDER IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE LEADERSHIP

LEADERSHIP BUT THE UGLY RUDY BEFORE THAT BUT THE UGLY RUDY BEFORE THAT BEFORE THE DIVISIVENESS AND ALL BEFORE THE DIVISIVENESS AND ALL THAT AFTER, I THINK HE DESERVES THAT AFTER, I THINK HE DESERVES ALL OF THE CRITICISM THAT WE CAN ALL OF THE CRITICISM THAT WE CAN PUT ON HIM PUT ON HIM I THINK THAT’S THE CHICKENS I THINK THAT’S THE CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST COMING HOME TO ROOST

WHEN I LOOK AT THE "NEW YORK WHEN I LOOK AT THE "NEW YORK TIMES" ABOUT 3:30 THIS MORNING TIMES" ABOUT 3:30 THIS MORNING WITH THIS HEADLINE SAYING THAT WITH THIS HEADLINE SAYING THAT THE EX-MAYOR IS THE ONE BRINGING THE EX-MAYOR IS THE ONE BRINGING DONALD TRUMP TO THE BRINK OF DONALD TRUMP TO THE BRINK OF IMPEACHMENT, THAT IS WHERE RUDY IMPEACHMENT, THAT IS WHERE RUDY GIULIANI MAY END UP GOING IN GIULIANI MAY END UP GOING IN HISTORY THE AT THE MAY BE THE HISTORY THE AT THE MAY BE THE MAN THAT HELPED TO BRING DONALD MAN THAT HELPED TO BRING DONALD TRUMP DOWN, IF NOT — TRUMP DOWN, IF NOT — >> ABSOLUTELY IN AN ELECTION AND >> ABSOLUTELY IN AN ELECTION AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY INTERESTING, IS VERY INTERESTING, PARTICULARLY WHEN TRUMP PARTICULARLY WHEN TRUMP HUMILIATED HIM BY NOT MAKING HIM HUMILIATED HIM BY NOT MAKING HIM SECRETARY OF STATE OR ATTORNEY SECRETARY OF STATE OR ATTORNEY GENERAL GENERAL THERE’S SOME PART OF — THAT THERE’S SOME PART OF — THAT HE’S VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS HE’S VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS >> AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR >> AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR GIULIANI, I WORKED IN THE GIULIANI, I WORKED IN THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SIX YEARS, ADMINISTRATION FOR SIX YEARS, I’LL TELL YOU I BELIEVED IN A I’LL TELL YOU I BELIEVED IN A WLOOFT WE WERE WLOOFT WE WERE LOT OF WHAT WE WERE DOING

LOT OF WHAT WE WERE DOING THERE WERE ISSUES IN THIS THERE WERE ISSUES IN THIS ADMINISTRATION AND YES, TOWARDS ADMINISTRATION AND YES, TOWARDS THE END OF HIS SECOND TERM THE END OF HIS SECOND TERM BEFORE 9/11, HE WAS NOT THAT BEFORE 9/11, HE WAS NOT THAT POPULAR POPULAR THAT BEING SAID — THAT BEING SAID — >> DESERVEDLY SO >> DESERVEDLY SO

>> OKAY >> OKAY BUT IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS THAT BUT IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS THAT FOLLOWED 9/11, AS SOMEONE WHO IS FOLLOWED 9/11, AS SOMEONE WHO IS AWARE OF THE COMFORT AND THE AWARE OF THE COMFORT AND THE THINGS HE DID FOR PEOPLE AFTER THINGS HE DID FOR PEOPLE AFTER 9/11, YEARS AFTER THE FACT, HE 9/11, YEARS AFTER THE FACT, HE WAS THERE WAS THERE DID HE MAKE MONEY AFTER HE LEFT DID HE MAKE MONEY AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE? OFFICE? YES, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO

YES, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO AS WE ARE WELL AWARE AS WE ARE WELL AWARE BUT I WILL — WHAT HE HAS BECOME BUT I WILL — WHAT HE HAS BECOME TODAY AND THIS ARTICLE IS TODAY AND THIS ARTICLE IS FRIGHTENING, IT’S DEPRESSING, FRIGHTENING, IT’S DEPRESSING, IT’S REALLY SAD AS SOMEONE WHO IT’S REALLY SAD AS SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTED THE MAYOR SUPPORTED THE MAYOR

I AM DEVASTATED BY WHAT HE HAS I AM DEVASTATED BY WHAT HE HAS BECOME AND WHAT HE IS DOING BECOME AND WHAT HE IS DOING I THINK HE’S NOT JUST DOING ITA I THINK HE’S NOT JUST DOING ITA DISSERVICE TO THE PRESIDENT AND DISSERVICE TO THE PRESIDENT AND GIVING HIM BAD ADVICE, BUT HE’S GIVING HIM BAD ADVICE, BUT HE’S DOING A DISCREDIT TO THE DOING A DISCREDIT TO THE COUNTRY COUNTRY AND THAT, TO ME, IS RIGHT IS AND THAT, TO ME, IS RIGHT IS THERE

THERE BUT AS SOMEONE, AGAIN, THE BUT AS SOMEONE, AGAIN, THE MONTHS AND YEARS AFTER 9/11, MONTHS AND YEARS AFTER 9/11, WHAT HE DID FOR PEOPLE THAT A WHAT HE DID FOR PEOPLE THAT A LOT OF FOLKS AREN’T AWARE OF, I LOT OF FOLKS AREN’T AWARE OF, I WILL NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM WILL NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM EVER EVER >> BUT HE SHOULD USE IT >> BUT HE SHOULD USE IT

I MEAN, IN THAT SAME ARTICLE I MEAN, IN THAT SAME ARTICLE THIS MORNING, TO THINK THAT HE THIS MORNING, TO THINK THAT HE BROUGHT THESE GUYS FROM UKRAINE BROUGHT THESE GUYS FROM UKRAINE TO THE 9/11 — TO THE 9/11 — >> NOW THAT IS — I AGREE >> NOW THAT IS — I AGREE >> THAT GOES TO DONNY’S POINT TO >> THAT GOES TO DONNY’S POINT TO THE EXPLOIT IT NOW AND USE IT THE EXPLOIT IT NOW AND USE IT NOW NOW >> HE WASN’T USING THAT THERE

>> HE WASN’T USING THAT THERE WHEN YOU READ THAT STORY AND HE WHEN YOU READ THAT STORY AND HE BROUGHT HIM TO THE 9/11 DIN, HE BROUGHT HIM TO THE 9/11 DIN, HE THAT ARE THAT ARE DINNER, THAT DINNER WAS SACRED DINNER, THAT DINNER WAS SACRED FOR YEARS AND YEARS FOR YEARS AND YEARS SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED WHEN HE BRINGS THESE SURPRISED WHEN HE BRINGS THESE TWO UKRAINIANS IN, IT WAS TWO UKRAINIANS IN, IT WAS SHOCKING SHOCKING

>> WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? >> WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? >> BUT THAT WASN’T FOR ANY GAIN >> BUT THAT WASN’T FOR ANY GAIN BUT JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THAT BUT JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THAT WAS A PRIVATE DINNER WAS A PRIVATE DINNER NO ONE PROTESTED OFFFITED OFF OF NO ONE PROTESTED OFFFITED OFF OF DPOINT THINK

DPOINT THINK I THINK IT JUST SHOWED WHERE HE I THINK IT JUST SHOWED WHERE HE WAS WAS >> IF WERE IF HE BROUGHT THEM >> IF WERE IF HE BROUGHT THEM THERE, INQUIRING MIND WANTS TO THERE, INQUIRING MIND WANTS TO KNOW WHY KNOW WHY

>> MIKA, OBVIOUSLY I’M NOT >> MIKA, OBVIOUSLY I’M NOT DEFENDING POST 9/11 RUDY BEYOND DEFENDING POST 9/11 RUDY BEYOND WHAT HE DID IN THOSE YEARS AFTER WHAT HE DID IN THOSE YEARS AFTER THAT SUSAN’S TALKING ABOUT THAT SUSAN’S TALKING ABOUT AND CERTAINLY HE HAS ACTED AND CERTAINLY HE HAS ACTED ABHORRENTLY AND IT’S VERY ABHORRENTLY AND IT’S VERY DEPRESSING, AGAIN, FOR KNOWS WHO DEPRESSING, AGAIN, FOR KNOWS WHO ACTUALLY ACTUALLY THOSE WHO LOOKED UP TO THIS GUY THOSE WHO LOOKED UP TO THIS GUY HE WAS CALLED AMERICA’S MAYOR, HE WAS CALLED AMERICA’S MAYOR, BUT HAD A CONTROVERSIAL RUN AS BUT HAD A CONTROVERSIAL RUN AS MAYOR OF NEW YORK

MAYOR OF NEW YORK BUT WHAT IS SO, I THINK, BUT WHAT IS SO, I THINK, DISTRESSING AND ALSO JUST SO DISTRESSING AND ALSO JUST SO UNBELIEVABLE IS, YOU KNOW, WE UNBELIEVABLE IS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WERE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, MIKA, AND WE WON’T MENTION THE MIKA, AND WE WON’T MENTION THE NAME, BUT LAST WEEK SOMEBODY NAME, BUT LAST WEEK SOMEBODY CAME UP TO ME AND MIKA AND ME CAME UP TO ME AND MIKA AND ME AND WHO I WON’T SAY THE NAME BUT AND WHO I WON’T SAY THE NAME BUT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH RUDY WAS ASSOCIATED WITH RUDY GIULIANI IN HIS GLORY YEARS AS GIULIANI IN HIS GLORY YEARS AS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY AND MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY AND DURING 9/11 AND SAID, ISN’T IT DURING 9/11 AND SAID, ISN’T IT SO SAD WHAT A TRAGEDY IT IS SO SAD WHAT A TRAGEDY IT IS THAT — I’M JUST USING THE WORDS THAT — I’M JUST USING THE WORDS THAT WERE SAID TO ME — THAT THAT WERE SAID TO ME — THAT THIS OLD MAN IS SO DESPERATE TO THIS OLD MAN IS SO DESPERATE TO BE IN THE HEADLINES THAT HE HAS BE IN THE HEADLINES THAT HE HAS SHATTERED ANY POSITIVE LEGACY SHATTERED ANY POSITIVE LEGACY THAT HE WOULD HAVE EVER HAD THAT HE WOULD HAVE EVER HAD AFTER ALL THE THINGS WE WENT AFTER ALL THE THINGS WE WENT THROUGH DEFENDING HIM THROUGH THROUGH DEFENDING HIM THROUGH THE YEARS THE YEARS AND IT IS AND IT IS

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SPOTLIGHT, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SPOTLIGHT, IT’S ALL ABOUT GRBAC THEABBING T IT’S ALL ABOUT GRBAC THEABBING T HEADLINE AND HE’S WILLING TO HEADLINE AND HE’S WILLING TO SQUANDER HIS EXISTENCE FOR A SQUANDER HIS EXISTENCE FOR A POCKET FULL OF HEADLINES POCKET FULL OF HEADLINES >> PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM SEE A >> PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM SEE A REAL DECLINE IN HIS BEHAVIOR AND REAL DECLINE IN HIS BEHAVIOR AND EVERYTHING EVERYTHING >> ABSOLUTELY

>> ABSOLUTELY >>> STATE ATTORNEY FOR PAUL — >>> STATE ATTORNEY FOR PAUL — >> INCLUDING — INCLUDING THE >> INCLUDING — INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES >> YEAH >> YEAH

>> WHICH IS SO BIZARRE THAT THE >> WHICH IS SO BIZARRE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES EVEN BEFORE HE WAS SWORN IN AS EVEN BEFORE HE WAS SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS, NOT MINE, PRESIDENT’S WORDS, NOT MINE, THAT RUDY GIULIANI HAD LOST

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