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Fact-Checking January’s Democratic Debate | NBC News NOW

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ESPECIALLY BERNIE SANDERS WE ASKED HIM TO FAST CHECK SOME WE ASKED HIM TO FAST CHECK SOME OF THE CLAIMS MADE BY BERNIE OF THE CLAIMS MADE BY BERNIE SANDERS AND SWROE BIDEN

SANDERS AND SWROE BIDEN >> LAST NIGHT WE HAD THE >> LAST NIGHT WE HAD THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE ON THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE ON THE SMALLEST STAGE YET SMALLEST STAGE YET ALL EYES WERE ON SENATOR BERNIE ALL EYES WERE ON SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS OF VERMONT SANDERS OF VERMONT

DEMOCRATS WERE ZEROING IN ON DEMOCRATS WERE ZEROING IN ON HIM HIM HIS POLLING NUMBERS ARE STRONG HIS POLLING NUMBERS ARE STRONG RIGHT NOW AND HIS TAKTS ARE A RIGHT NOW AND HIS TAKTS ARE A LITTLE MUDDLED AT TIMES LITTLE MUDDLED AT TIMES WASN’T THE ONLY ONE BUT LET’S WASN’T THE ONLY ONE BUT LET’S DIG INTO SOME OF THE THINGS HE DIG INTO SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID AND WHERE HE WENT WRONG AND SAID AND WHERE HE WENT WRONG AND OF COURSE WHERE HE WAS RIGHT AS OF COURSE WHERE HE WAS RIGHT AS WELL

WELL THERE WAS ONE MOMENT IN THERE WAS ONE MOMENT IN PARTICULAR WHERE HE RATTLED OFF PARTICULAR WHERE HE RATTLED OFF A LIST OF FACTS ABOUT MEDICARE A LIST OF FACTS ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL, SORT OF CRITICIZING THE FOR ALL, SORT OF CRITICIZING THE CURRENT SYSTEM CURRENT SYSTEM >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT JOE >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT JOE FORGETS TO SAY IS WHEN YOU LEAVE FORGETS TO SAY IS WHEN YOU LEAVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS IT IS WHAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS IT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE WORKERS PAYING ON AVERAGE 20% OF WORKERS PAYING ON AVERAGE 20% OF THEIR INCOMES FOR HEALTH CARE THEIR INCOMES FOR HEALTH CARE

THAT IS INSANE THAT IS INSANE YOU’VE GOT 500,000 PEOPLE GOING YOU’VE GOT 500,000 PEOPLE GOING BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PAY BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS THEIR MEDICAL BILLS WE’RE SPENDING TWICE AS MUCH PER WE’RE SPENDING TWICE AS MUCH PER CAPITA ON HEALTH CARE AS DO THE CAPITA ON HEALTH CARE AS DO THE PEOPLE OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY

PEOPLE OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY >> AMERICANS ARE NOT SPENDING >> AMERICANS ARE NOT SPENDING 20% OF THEIR INCOME ON HEALTH 20% OF THEIR INCOME ON HEALTH KIR KIR CARE CARE

OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THAT WHO ARE IN WHO ARE DOING THAT WHO ARE IN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES BY WENT BACK TO THE FEDERAL DATA BY WENT BACK TO THE FEDERAL DATA OF EXPENDITURES OF EXPENDITURES AND AVERAGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT AND AVERAGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT PEOPLE SPEND

PEOPLE SPEND AND IT CAME TO MORE THAN 6% AND IT CAME TO MORE THAN 6% OF COURSE MEDICARE FAMILIES TEND OF COURSE MEDICARE FAMILIES TEND TO SPEND MORE ON HEALTH CARE TO SPEND MORE ON HEALTH CARE THAN NON-MEDICARE FAMILIES THAN NON-MEDICARE FAMILIES

BUT 20% IS AN EXAGGERATION BUT 20% IS AN EXAGGERATION BERNIE SANDERS SAID AMERICANS BERNIE SANDERS SAID AMERICANS SPEND TWICE AS MUCH ON HEALTH SPEND TWICE AS MUCH ON HEALTH CARE AS EVERYONE ELSE CARE AS EVERYONE ELSE WHEN YOU HEAR A STATEMENT LIKE WHEN YOU HEAR A STATEMENT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW YOU’RE EVERYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE M PROBLEMS WITH GOING TO HAVE M PROBLEMS WITH IT

IT HE’S TALKING ABOUT OTHER HE’S TALKING ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPED NATIONS DEVELOPED NATIONS AND AMERICA DOES SPEND TWICE AS AND AMERICA DOES SPEND TWICE AS MUCH AS SOME DEVELOPED NATIONS MUCH AS SOME DEVELOPED NATIONS BUT NOT ALL DEVELOPED NATIONS BUT NOT ALL DEVELOPED NATIONS

SWITZERLAND SPENDS ACTUALLY SWITZERLAND SPENDS ACTUALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO AS MUCH AS WE PRETTY CLOSE TO AS MUCH AS WE SPEND ON HEALTH CARE AND OF SPEND ON HEALTH CARE AND OF COURSE LESS DEVELOPED NATIONS COURSE LESS DEVELOPED NATIONS SPEND A LOT LESS SPEND A LOT LESS IT’S AN EXAGGERATION AND NOT THE IT’S AN EXAGGERATION AND NOT THE RIGHT DATA POINT RIGHT DATA POINT THE LAST POINT, HALF A MILLION THE LAST POINT, HALF A MILLION MEDICAL BANKRUPTCIES A YEAR

MEDICAL BANKRUPTCIES A YEAR HUGE NUMBER HUGE NUMBER NOW, BERNIE SANDERS SAYS HE’S NOW, BERNIE SANDERS SAYS HE’S STICKING WITH THIS NUMBER STICKING WITH THIS NUMBER

HE DEFENDED IT WHEN THEY THEY HE DEFENDED IT WHEN THEY THEY DID FACT CHECKS WITH THE DID FACT CHECKS WITH THE "WASHINGTON POST" "WASHINGTON POST" AND THE STUDY HE POINTS TO THE AND THE STUDY HE POINTS TO THE AUTHOR BACKS HIM UP AUTHOR BACKS HIM UP BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MEDICAL BILLS BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MEDICAL BILLS CONTRIBUTE TO BANKRUPTCY

CONTRIBUTE TO BANKRUPTCY THEY AREN’T THE SOLE DRIVER OF THEY AREN’T THE SOLE DRIVER OF BANKRUPTCY IN A LOT OF THESE BANKRUPTCY IN A LOT OF THESE CASES CASES SO SAYING HALF A MILLION SO SAYING HALF A MILLION BANKRUPTCIES PER YEAR FOR BANKRUPTCIES PER YEAR FOR MEDICAL BILLS LOOKS LIKE AN MEDICAL BILLS LOOKS LIKE AN EXAGGERATION AS WELL EXAGGERATION AS WELL

ONE THING SANDERS DID HAVE ONE THING SANDERS DID HAVE RIGHT, YOU’LL THAT HE TRIED TO RIGHT, YOU’LL THAT HE TRIED TO FACT CHECK SENATOR WARREN ON THE FACT CHECK SENATOR WARREN ON THE STAGE WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS THE STAGE WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAD BEAT A ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAD BEAT A REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT IN 30 REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT IN 30 YEARS YEARS HE REMINDED HER HIS LAST VICTORY HE REMINDED HER HIS LAST VICTORY OVER A REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT OVER A REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT 1990 1990 NOVEMBER, THOUGH

NOVEMBER, THOUGH SO 29 YEARS AND CHANGE SO 29 YEARS AND CHANGE HE WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THAT SPAT SPAT

SENATOR SANDERS ALSO TALKED UP SENATOR SANDERS ALSO TALKED UP HIS OPPOSITION TO THE WAR IN HIS OPPOSITION TO THE WAR IN IRAQ IRAQ HE VOTED FOR THE WAR IN HE VOTED FOR THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN BUT HE DID NOT AFGHANISTAN BUT HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE IRAQ WAR SUPPORT THE IRAQ WAR AND HE’S REALLY BEEN STRONG IN AND HE’S REALLY BEEN STRONG IN HIS OPPOSITION TO IT

HIS OPPOSITION TO IT AND HE SAYS IT’S ONE THING THAT AND HE SAYS IT’S ONE THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES HIM FROM SOMEONE DIFFERENTIATES HIM FROM SOMEONE LIKE VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, LIKE VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, WHO DID VOTE FOR THE WHO DID VOTE FOR THE INTERVENTION IN IRAQ INTERVENTION IN IRAQ BUT ONE THING THAT’S REALLY BUT ONE THING THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT IS HE WAS OMITTING THE IMPORTANT IS HE WAS OMITTING THE YEARS OF ADVOCATING FOR REGIME YEARS OF ADVOCATING FOR REGIME CHANGE AND THE OVERTHROW OF CHANGE AND THE OVERTHROW OF SADDAM HUSSEIN LEADING UP TO SADDAM HUSSEIN LEADING UP TO THIS INTERVENTION THIS INTERVENTION

HE VOTED FOR AIR STRIKES HE VOTED FOR AIR STRIKES HE SUPPORTED BILL CLINTON WHEN HE SUPPORTED BILL CLINTON WHEN HE WAS GETTING INVOLVED IN THE HE WAS GETTING INVOLVED IN THE LATE ’90s LATE ’90s AND HE KIND OF OMITTED THIS WHEN AND HE KIND OF OMITTED THIS WHEN HE SAID THIS IS HOW HE KNOWS HE SAID THIS IS HOW HE KNOWS HE’D BE A BETTER COMMANDER IN HE’D BE A BETTER COMMANDER IN CHIEF THAN OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CHIEF THAN OTHER PEOPLE ON THE STAGE

STAGE LAST BUT NOT LEAST JOE BIDEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST JOE BIDEN SAID HE INTRODUCED THE FIRST SAID HE INTRODUCED THE FIRST CLIMATE BILL IN THE SENATE, CLIMATE BILL IN THE SENATE, ADVOCATING, PITCHING HIMSELF AS ADVOCATING, PITCHING HIMSELF AS A LONG-TIME CLIMATE CHANGE A LONG-TIME CLIMATE CHANGE WARRIOR WARRIOR BUT YOU ALL REMEMBER DEMOCRATIC BUT YOU ALL REMEMBER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR AL GORE SENATOR AL GORE

HE ACTUALLY INTRODUCED THE FIRST HE ACTUALLY INTRODUCED THE FIRST BILL THAT WENT ON THE SENATE BILL THAT WENT ON THE SENATE FLOOR AND TALKED ABOUT THIS FLOOR AND TALKED ABOUT THIS IT WAS A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION IT WAS A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION WHEREAS JOE BIDEN WAS ACTUALLY WHEREAS JOE BIDEN WAS ACTUALLY INTRODUCING? INTRODUCING? LEGISLATION, BUT TO BE FAIR JOE LEGISLATION, BUT TO BE FAIR JOE BIDEN EXAGGERATING THERE AS BIDEN EXAGGERATING THERE AS WELL WELL ALL IN ALL A PRETTY CLEAN ALL IN ALL A PRETTY CLEAN DEMOCRATIC DEBATE

DEMOCRATIC DEBATE WE SAW A LOT MORE STATEMENTS OF WE SAW A LOT MORE STATEMENTS OF OPINION, A LOT OF CANDIDATES OPINION, A LOT OF CANDIDATES TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES VERSUS THROWING THEMSELVES VERSUS THROWING AROUND STATS AND FACTS AND AROUND STATS AND FACTS AND TRYING TO PROVE THEMSELVES AS IN TRYING TO PROVE THEMSELVES AS IN THE KNOW AND AWARE THE KNOW AND AWARE WE SAW CANDIDATES REALLY STAKE WE SAW CANDIDATES REALLY STAKE OUT THEIR LANES IN DEMOCRATIC OUT THEIR LANES IN DEMOCRATIC PARTIES PARTIES

SOMETHING THAT’S EASIER TO DO SOMETHING THAT’S EASIER TO DO WITH SIX CANDIDATES AND NOT A

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