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WELCOME BACK TO MORNING JOE WELCOME BACK TO MORNING JOE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, JOE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, JOE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN CLAIMS HE DOES NOT NEED CLAIMS HE DOES NOT NEED PRESIDENT OBAMA’S ENDORSEMENT IN PRESIDENT OBAMA’S ENDORSEMENT IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION

THE UPCOMING ELECTION THAT’S NOT MY QUESTION THAT’S NOT MY QUESTION MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THIS MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THIS

ABOARD HIS NO MALARKY BUS TOUR ABOARD HIS NO MALARKY BUS TOUR OF IOWA, YESTERDAY, BIDEN TOLD OF IOWA, YESTERDAY, BIDEN TOLD REPORTERS THAT OBAMA’S BACKING REPORTERS THAT OBAMA’S BACKING IS NOT NEEDED EVEN IF HE IS ONE IS NOT NEEDED EVEN IF HE IS ONE OF THE LAST DEMOCRATIC OF THE LAST DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES STANDING CANDIDATES STANDING JUST BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, NO JUST BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, NO MALARKY, DOES THAT WORK? MALARKY, DOES THAT WORK? I MEAN, I KINDA LIKE THAT, I I MEAN, I KINDA LIKE THAT, I THINK THINK >> NO MALARKY IS OKAY

>> NO MALARKY IS OKAY >> WHAT IS MALARKY? >> WHAT IS MALARKY? >> YOU KNOW WHAT — >> YOU KNOW WHAT — >> IT’S A WORD FOR BS >> IT’S A WORD FOR BS >> WHY CAN’T IT IS A BS? >> WHY CAN’T IT IS A BS? >> HE’S IRISH SO IT SAYS >> HE’S IRISH SO IT SAYS MALARKY MALARKY

>> I THINK IT’S A FANTASTIC >> I THINK IT’S A FANTASTIC CAMPAIGN SLOGAN FOR CORK IN CAMPAIGN SLOGAN FOR CORK IN 1956 1956 SO — SO — >> WELL, HE’S JUST EMBRACING — >> WELL, HE’S JUST EMBRACING — HE’S OWNING IT THEN HE’S OWNING IT THEN IT’S JUST LIKE THAT’S WHAT HE’S IT’S JUST LIKE THAT’S WHAT HE’S BEEN SAYING

BEEN SAYING >> YOU KNOW, HE’S — I’M A ’50s >> YOU KNOW, HE’S — I’M A ’50s GUY GUY I GO AROUND SAYING THINGS THAT I GO AROUND SAYING THINGS THAT DUDES IN THEIR MID-80S SAY DUDES IN THEIR MID-80S SAY

HE IS OWNING IT AND PUTTING IT HE IS OWNING IT AND PUTTING IT ON THE SIDE OF HIS BUS ON THE SIDE OF HIS BUS >> THEN I KIND OF LIKE IT >> THEN I KIND OF LIKE IT >> HEY, LISTEN, I’M A BIG >> HEY, LISTEN, I’M A BIG BELIEVER IN, YOU KNOW, YOU BE BELIEVER IN, YOU KNOW, YOU BE TRUE TO YOURSELF

TRUE TO YOURSELF >> OKAY >> OKAY >> AND IF THAT MAKES HIM MORE >> AND IF THAT MAKES HIM MORE COMFORTABLE ON THE CAMPAIGN COMFORTABLE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, SO BE IT, JEDI TRAIL, SO BE IT, JEDI

WHICH OF COURSE IF I EVER RUN A WHICH OF COURSE IF I EVER RUN A CAMPAIGN, THAT’S WHAT I’M GOING CAMPAIGN, THAT’S WHAT I’M GOING TO HAVE ON THE SIDE OF MY BUS TO HAVE ON THE SIDE OF MY BUS >> THERE YOU GO >> THERE YOU GO >> SO BE IT, JEDI, WITH A >> SO BE IT, JEDI, WITH A PICTURE OF THE EMPEROR GOING PICTURE OF THE EMPEROR GOING JUST LIKE THAT

JUST LIKE THAT THAT’S WHAT I SAY TO MY KIDS THAT’S WHAT I SAY TO MY KIDS EVERY TIME THEY TALK BACK TO ME EVERY TIME THEY TALK BACK TO ME >>> NOW I’LL GET TO THE STORY >>> NOW I’LL GET TO THE STORY

WHEN ASKED ABOUT A "POLITICO" WHEN ASKED ABOUT A "POLITICO" REPORT THAT OBAMA SAID THE REPORT THAT OBAMA SAID THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, QUOTE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, QUOTE, REALLY DIDN’T HAVE IT WHEN IT REALLY DIDN’T HAVE IT WHEN IT COMES TO CONNECTING WITH VOTERS, COMES TO CONNECTING WITH VOTERS, BIDEN REPLIED, QUOTE, HE MAY BIDEN REPLIED, QUOTE, HE MAY HAVE SAID THAT AND IF IT’S TRUE, HAVE SAID THAT AND IF IT’S TRUE, AND HE SAID IT, THERE’S TRUTH TO AND HE SAID IT, THERE’S TRUTH TO IT IT >> OH >> OH >> BIDEN TOLD BLOOMBERG NEWS >> BIDEN TOLD BLOOMBERG NEWS THAT HE WAS THE ONE DURING THEIR THAT HE WAS THE ONE DURING THEIR SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN WHO WAS SENT SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN WHO WAS SENT TO KEY STATES SUCH AS TO KEY STATES SUCH AS PENNSYLVANIA AND COLORADO TO PENNSYLVANIA AND COLORADO TO ENERGIZE VOTERS

ENERGIZE VOTERS BIDEN ALSO DISHED ABOUT HIS BIDEN ALSO DISHED ABOUT HIS FELLOW 2020 DEMOCRATIC OPPONENTS FELLOW 2020 DEMOCRATIC OPPONENTS SCOFFING AT THE NOTION THAT SCOFFING AT THE NOTION THAT SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN IS SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN IS BUILDING ENTHUSIASM AND APECCUSI BUILDING ENTHUSIASM AND APECCUSI MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG OF STEALING MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG OF STEALING HIS HEALTH CARE PLAN HIS HEALTH CARE PLAN OKAY OKAY

>> LET’S BRING IN THE COFOUNDER >> LET’S BRING IN THE COFOUNDER OF AXIOS, JIM VANDEHEI OF AXIOS, JIM VANDEHEI JIM, SOMEBODY APPARENTLY HAS JIM, SOMEBODY APPARENTLY HAS SPIKED JOE BIDEN’S MILK OF SPIKED JOE BIDEN’S MILK OF MAGNESIA MAGNESIA HE’S COMING OUT FIGHTING

HE’S COMING OUT FIGHTING >> STOP IT >> STOP IT >> YOU’RE ON A ROLL THIS >> YOU’RE ON A ROLL THIS MORNING, JOE MORNING, JOE

>> NO, NO, NOT — AND YOU KNOW >> NO, NO, NOT — AND YOU KNOW WHAT I CALL IT? WHAT I CALL IT? NO MALARKY, LAD NO MALARKY, LAD NO MALARKY NO MALARKY >> WE’LL HAVE A NO MALARKY >> WE’LL HAVE A NO MALARKY EXCHANGE HERE

EXCHANGE HERE I THINK BIDEN SEES A COUPLE I THINK BIDEN SEES A COUPLE THINGS HAPPEN THINGS HAPPEN ONE, WITH ELIZABETH WARREN HE ONE, WITH ELIZABETH WARREN HE FEELS LIKE SHE MADE AN EPIC FEELS LIKE SHE MADE AN EPIC MISTAKE IN ENDORSING MEDICARE MISTAKE IN ENDORSING MEDICARE FOR ALL WITHOUT AN OPTION TO FOR ALL WITHOUT AN OPTION TO KEEP YOUR PRIVATE INSURANCE KEEP YOUR PRIVATE INSURANCE

SO HE’S GOING TO KEEP THE FOOT SO HE’S GOING TO KEEP THE FOOT ON GAS ON GOING AFTER HER ON GAS ON GOING AFTER HER WHEN PETE BUTTIGIEG, WHO HE SEES WHEN PETE BUTTIGIEG, WHO HE SEES AS THE BIGGEST THREAT IN TERMS AS THE BIGGEST THREAT IN TERMS OF SOMEBODY WHO COULD WIN OVER OF SOMEBODY WHO COULD WIN OVER MODERATES AND CENTRISTS, HE MODERATES AND CENTRISTS, HE KNOWS THAT BUTTIGIEG HAS A KNOWS THAT BUTTIGIEG HAS A MASSIVE PROBLEM WITH MASSIVE PROBLEM WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT CERTAINLY IN THE POLLS BUT CERTAINLY IN THE POLLS NATIONALLY NATIONALLY SO HE HAS EVERY REASON TO BE A SO HE HAS EVERY REASON TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE AND LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE AND TRY TO WIND THAT GAPDEN THAT GAP TRY TO WIND THAT GAPDEN THAT GAP HIM AND BUTTIGIEG AND ELIZABETH HIM AND BUTTIGIEG AND ELIZABETH WARREN

WARREN I THINK HE’S IRRITATED I THINK HE’S IRRITATED YOU THINK ABOUT BLOOMBERG YOU THINK ABOUT BLOOMBERG GETTING INTO THE RACE GETTING INTO THE RACE

BLOOMBERG CALLED HIM EARLY ON BLOOMBERG CALLED HIM EARLY ON AND PROMISED HE WASN’T GOING TO AND PROMISED HE WASN’T GOING TO GET IN THE RACE IT BIDEN WAS IN GET IN THE RACE IT BIDEN WAS IN THERE THERE NOW BLOOMBERG’S IN THERE AND NOW BLOOMBERG’S IN THERE AND HE’S GOING TO SPEND GOBS OF HE’S GOING TO SPEND GOBS OF MONEY AND THAT MONEY’S AIMS AT MONEY AND THAT MONEY’S AIMS AT PEOPLE BIDEN THINKS HE SHOULD BE PEOPLE BIDEN THINKS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN ABLE TO WIN I THINK A LITTLE BIT IS OICHS, I THINK A LITTLE BIT IS OICHS, OFFENSIVE, A LITTLE BIT IS OFFENSIVE, A LITTLE BIT IS DEFENSIVE

DEFENSIVE I THINK OBAMA HAS BEEN VERY I THINK OBAMA HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT HE’S NOT GOING TO CLEAR THAT HE’S NOT GOING TO ENDORSE ANYBODY IT’S A DEMOCRAT ENDORSE ANYBODY IT’S A DEMOCRAT VERSUS A REPUBLICAN RACE VERSUS A REPUBLICAN RACE >> WHAT ABOUT THE BIDEN >> WHAT ABOUT THE BIDEN STRATEGY? STRATEGY? HOW ARE THEY FEELING THAT WE’RE HOW ARE THEY FEELING THAT WE’RE NOT DOING GREAT IN THE POLLS NOT DOING GREAT IN THE POLLS EARLY, IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, EARLY, IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT THOSE STATES AREN’T BUT THOSE STATES AREN’T REPRESENTATIVE AND COME NEVADA REPRESENTATIVE AND COME NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND ROLLING AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND ROLLING INTO SUPER TUESDAY WE’LL BE FINE INTO SUPER TUESDAY WE’LL BE FINE SITTING RIGHT WHERE WE WANT TO SITTING RIGHT WHERE WE WANT TO BE? BE? WE’LL WIN BIG, THE ARGUMENT WE’LL WIN BIG, THE ARGUMENT GOES, IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THAT GOES, IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THAT WILL CHANGE THE CONVERSATION WILL CHANGE THE CONVERSATION

DO THEY WORRY THAT IF PETE DO THEY WORRY THAT IF PETE BUTTIGIEG OR ELIZABETH WARREN OR BUTTIGIEG OR ELIZABETH WARREN OR BERNIE SANDERS TAKES THOSE FIRST BERNIE SANDERS TAKES THOSE FIRST TWO STATES THEY’RE IN A TOUGH TWO STATES THEY’RE IN A TOUGH HOLE TO START OFF? HOLE TO START OFF? >> WHAT BIDEN BELIEVES RIGHT NOW >> WHAT BIDEN BELIEVES RIGHT NOW IS THAT HE PROBABLY IS MORE IS THAT HE PROBABLY IS MORE CONFIDENT THAN HE WAS THREE OR CONFIDENT THAN HE WAS THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO FOUR WEEKS AGO HE FEELS LIKE HIS THEORY OF THE HE FEELS LIKE HIS THEORY OF THE CASE IS PROVING TO BE STRONGER CASE IS PROVING TO BE STRONGER THAN THE OTHERS THAN THE OTHERS THAT THE PARTY’S NOT AS LIBERAL THAT THE PARTY’S NOT AS LIBERAL AS ELIZABETH WARREN THINKS IT AS ELIZABETH WARREN THINKS IT IS, THAT THE VOTERS IN THOSE IS, THAT THE VOTERS IN THOSE EARLY STATES ARE NOT AS LIBERAL EARLY STATES ARE NOT AS LIBERAL AS SHE IS OR BERNIE SANDERS

AS SHE IS OR BERNIE SANDERS BUTTIGIEG IS ROOKIE WHO CAN’T BUTTIGIEG IS ROOKIE WHO CAN’T WIN MINORITY VOTES WIN MINORITY VOTES HE FEELS LIKE HE’S BETTER HE FEELS LIKE HE’S BETTER POSITIONED THAN THE OTHER FOUR POSITIONED THAN THE OTHER FOUR

WHAT YOU SAID IS THE MOST LIKELY WHAT YOU SAID IS THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO SCENARIO IN THE FIRST FOUR RACES THERE’S IN THE FIRST FOUR RACES THERE’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A MIX OF PROBABLY GOING TO BE A MIX OF WINNERS WINNERS THAT’S WHY BLOOMBERG IS IN THE THAT’S WHY BLOOMBERG IS IN THE RACE

RACE HE THINKS IT’S GOING TO BE A HOT HE THINKS IT’S GOING TO BE A HOT MESS MESS PEOPLE WILL WIN A STATE HERE AND PEOPLE WILL WIN A STATE HERE AND STATE THERE AND IT’S GOING TO BE STATE THERE AND IT’S GOING TO BE WIDE OPEN HEADING INTO THE SUPER WIDE OPEN HEADING INTO THE SUPER TUESDAY AND HE’S GOING TO DO TUESDAY AND HE’S GOING TO DO WHAT BILLIONAIRES DO, HE’S GOING WHAT BILLIONAIRES DO, HE’S GOING TO SPEND AND POUR A TON OF MONEY TO SPEND AND POUR A TON OF MONEY INTO ADS MORE THAN OTHER INTO ADS MORE THAN OTHER CANDIDATES COMBINED CANDIDATES COMBINED

THEY’LL ALL BE ABOUT HIM AS MR THEY’LL ALL BE ABOUT HIM AS MR FIX IT AND MR PREDICTABLE AND FIX IT AND MR PREDICTABLE AND HOPE THAT HE CAN THROW HIMSELF HOPE THAT HE CAN THROW HIMSELF INTO THE MIX

INTO THE MIX AND HE HAD A BAD ENTRY AND HE HAD A BAD ENTRY LISTEN, TO START IN THE POLLS AT LISTEN, TO START IN THE POLLS AT 3%, 4%, 5% IS NOT GREAT, BUT 3%, 4%, 5% IS NOT GREAT, BUT HE’S SPENT 30, 40, 50 MILLION HE’S SPENT 30, 40, 50 MILLION WHATEVER HE’S SPENT AND THERE’S WHATEVER HE’S SPENT AND THERE’S A SLIGHT UPTICK IN THE POLLS A SLIGHT UPTICK IN THE POLLS THAT YOU SAW YESTERDAY THAT YOU SAW YESTERDAY

HE’S AT 5%, 6% HE’S AT 5%, 6% THE QUESTION HAVE CAN HE MOVE THE QUESTION HAVE CAN HE MOVE UP? UP? I’M SKEPTICAL BECAUSE HE SEEMS I’M SKEPTICAL BECAUSE HE SEEMS LIKE HE’S SO CENTRIST AND TOO LIKE HE’S SO CENTRIST AND TOO PROBABLY NEW YORK CITY FOR THE PROBABLY NEW YORK CITY FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT’S LOOKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT’S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING NEW FOR SOMETHING NEW BUT HE’S BETTING HIS REPUTATION BUT HE’S BETTING HIS REPUTATION IN SOME WAYS BETTING HIS NEWS IN SOME WAYS BETTING HIS NEWS ORGANIZATION ON IT

ORGANIZATION ON IT >> WELL, STEVE RATTNER, >> WELL, STEVE RATTNER, OBVIOUSLY YOU’VE BEEN VERY CLOSE OBVIOUSLY YOU’VE BEEN VERY CLOSE WITH THE MAYOR FOR SOME TIME WITH THE MAYOR FOR SOME TIME WE’LL PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT WE’LL PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW NOW

BUT, SINCE HE’S GOTTEN INTO THE BUT, SINCE HE’S GOTTEN INTO THE RACE, THERE HAS BEEN — THERE’S RACE, THERE HAS BEEN — THERE’S BEEN A TELLING SHIFT AT LEAST IN BEEN A TELLING SHIFT AT LEAST IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF NOVEMBER THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF NOVEMBER AND THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER AND THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER OF OF OF COURSE THE ONLY THING THAT OF COURSE THE ONLY THING THAT SHAPS WHAT HAPPENS IN SHAPS WHAT HAPPENS IN HAPPENS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN HAPPENS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN FEBRUARY AND BEYOND FEBRUARY AND BEYOND FOR NOW, PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO FOR NOW, PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC REALIZE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THAT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE, PARTY, THAT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE, DOES NOT LOOK LIKE DEMOCRATIC DOES NOT LOOK LIKE DEMOCRATIC TWITTER, THAT IT’S MORE LIKE THE TWITTER, THAT IT’S MORE LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT REVEREND DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT REVEREND AL TALKS ABOUT, WHICH IS A AL TALKS ABOUT, WHICH IS A CONSERVATIVE WITH A SMALL SEA CONSERVATIVE WITH A SMALL SEA DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT ACTUALLY DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS DOWN UPON WHAT REVEREND — LOOKS DOWN UPON WHAT REVEREND — WHAT WE USED TO CALL LIMOUSINE WHAT WE USED TO CALL LIMOUSINE LIBERALS BUT WHAT REVEREND AL LIBERALS BUT WHAT REVEREND AL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL LATTE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL LATTE LIBERALS

LIBERALS IT IS A CENTRIST PARTY, WHICH IT IS A CENTRIST PARTY, WHICH SHOULD BE A SHOCK BECAUSE EVERY SHOULD BE A SHOCK BECAUSE EVERY POLL OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAS POLL OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAS SHOWN THAT DEMOCRATS WANT A MORE SHOWN THAT DEMOCRATS WANT A MORE CENTRIST CANDIDATE THAN THEY DO CENTRIST CANDIDATE THAN THEY DO A PROGRESSIVE A PROGRESSIVE >> YEAH >> YEAH

SO A COUPLE THINGS SO A COUPLE THINGS FIRST OF ALL, IT’S NOT A FIRST OF ALL, IT’S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG COINCIDENCE THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG WAITED TILL THIS LAST MINUTE TO WAITED TILL THIS LAST MINUTE TO ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BACK IN THE HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BACK IN THE SPRING AND HIS CONCLUSION BACK SPRING AND HIS CONCLUSION BACK IN THE SPRING WAS THERE WERE TOO IN THE SPRING WAS THERE WERE TOO MANY STRONG CANDIDATES AND THERE MANY STRONG CANDIDATES AND THERE REALLY WASN’T ROOM FOR HIM IN REALLY WASN’T ROOM FOR HIM IN THE MIX

THE MIX AS THIS HAS ALL UNFOLDED, A BIT AS THIS HAS ALL UNFOLDED, A BIT ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WILLIE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WILLIE WAS GOING THROUGH OR JIM, THIS WAS GOING THROUGH OR JIM, THIS GETS MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE AT GETS MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT BIDEN IS POLLING THE MOMENT BIDEN IS POLLING FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA, WE ALL KNOW NO AND IOWA, WE ALL KNOW NO DEMOCRAT HAS BEEN NOMINATED DEMOCRAT HAS BEEN NOMINATED WITHOUT WINNING AT LEAST ONE OF WITHOUT WINNING AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE TWO STATES AND MOST OF THE THOSE TWO STATES AND MOST OF THE SUCCESSFUL ONES HAVE WON BOTH SUCCESSFUL ONES HAVE WON BOTH EXCEPT FOR BILL CLINTON IN ’92 EXCEPT FOR BILL CLINTON IN ’92 WHEN TIM HARKIN WAS RUNNING IN WHEN TIM HARKIN WAS RUNNING IN IOWA AND SAUGUS WAS RUNNING IN IOWA AND SAUGUS WAS RUNNING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE NEW HAMPSHIRE SO YOU’RE LOOKING AT A SCENARIO SO YOU’RE LOOKING AT A SCENARIO WHERE MAYOR PETE AND/OR WARREN WHERE MAYOR PETE AND/OR WARREN AND/OR POSSIBLY SANDERS COULD AND/OR POSSIBLY SANDERS COULD SOMEHOW SLIT UP IOWA AND NEW SOMEHOW SLIT UP IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, MAYBE BIDEN WINS HAMPSHIRE, MAYBE BIDEN WINS NEVADA, MAYBE HE WINS VK,SOUTH NEVADA, MAYBE HE WINS VK,SOUTH CAROLINA CAROLINA

HIS CAMPAIGN SAID HE WOULD RAISE HIS CAMPAIGN SAID HE WOULD RAISE $10 MILLION IN OCTOBER AND $10 MILLION IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER NOVEMBER HE RAISED $15 MILLION IN THE HE RAISED $15 MILLION IN THE THIRD QUARTER, 9 MILLION LEFT THIRD QUARTER, 9 MILLION LEFT HE’S GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY HE’S GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY TO GET IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY TO GET THROUGH THE EARLY STATES

THROUGH THE EARLY STATES MY POINT IS HE COULD WELL BE MY POINT IS HE COULD WELL BE APPROACHING A SUPER TUESDAY APPROACHING A SUPER TUESDAY WHERE ALMOST 45% OF THE WHERE ALMOST 45% OF THE DELEGATES ARE GOING TO BE DELEGATES ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED WITHOUT THE NONCOMPETE SELECTED WITHOUT THE NONCOMPETE NOT JUST AGAINST THE BLOOMBERG, NOT JUST AGAINST THE BLOOMBERG, BUT EVEN AGAINST A BUTTIGIEG OR BUT EVEN AGAINST A BUTTIGIEG OR WARREN OR SANDERS WHO’S WARREN OR SANDERS WHO’S FUNDRAISING CONTINUES AT A VERY FUNDRAISING CONTINUES AT A VERY ROBUST PACE ROBUST PACE

>> YOU’VE BROUGHT UP PETE >> YOU’VE BROUGHT UP PETE BUTTIGIEG BUTTIGIEG HE’S SEEING HIS FIRST STATEWIDE HE’S SEEING HIS FIRST STATEWIDE AD IN SOUTH CAROLINA TODAY AD IN SOUTH CAROLINA TODAY ENTITLED WELCOMED ME ENTITLED WELCOMED ME IT’S A PART OF THE CAMPAIGN’S IT’S A PART OF THE CAMPAIGN’S $2 MILLION AD BUY WHICH AIMED TO $2 MILLION AD BUY WHICH AIMED TO BETTER CONNECT BUTTIGIEG WITH BETTER CONNECT BUTTIGIEG WITH THE RACIALLY DIVERSE STATE

THE RACIALLY DIVERSE STATE HERE’S PART OF THE 30-SECOND HERE’S PART OF THE 30-SECOND SPOT SPOT >> IN OUR WHITE HOUSE, YOU WON’T >> IN OUR WHITE HOUSE, YOU WON’T HAVE TO SHAKE YOUR HEAD AND ASK HAVE TO SHAKE YOUR HEAD AND ASK YOURSELF WHATEVER HAPPENED TO I YOURSELF WHATEVER HAPPENED TO I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU FED ME? WAS HUNGRY AND YOU FED ME? I WAS A STRANGER AND YOU I WAS A STRANGER AND YOU WELCOMED ME WELCOMED ME

WHEN I SAY WE’VE GOT UNIFY THE WHEN I SAY WE’VE GOT UNIFY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IT DOESN’T MEAN AMERICAN PEOPLE, IT DOESN’T MEAN PRETENDING THAT WE’RE ALL THE PRETENDING THAT WE’RE ALL THE SAME SAME IT MEANS UNIFYING AROUND ISSUES IT MEANS UNIFYING AROUND ISSUES FROM WAGES AND FAMILY LEAVE TO FROM WAGES AND FAMILY LEAVE TO GUN VIOLENCE AND IMMIGRATION GUN VIOLENCE AND IMMIGRATION >> EDDIE, HOW’S HE DOING AS HE’S >> EDDIE, HOW’S HE DOING AS HE’S TRYING TO SORT OF APPROACH A TRYING TO SORT OF APPROACH A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT POLLS SHOW THAT HE JUST SUFFERS? POLLS SHOW THAT HE JUST SUFFERS? >> I THINK THE CAMPAIGN IS >> I THINK THE CAMPAIGN IS MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT

MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT HE JUST SAT DOWN RECENTLY AT HE JUST SAT DOWN RECENTLY AT GREEN LIFT CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN GREEN LIFT CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN NORTH CAROLINA NORTH CAROLINA >> HOW’D HE DO? >> HOW’D HE DO? >> HE DID FAIRLY WELL, I THINK >> HE DID FAIRLY WELL, I THINK

IT’S IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO TALK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT THESE POLICY ISSUES IN A ABOUT THESE POLICY ISSUES IN A WAY THAT REALLY SPEAK TO BLACK WAY THAT REALLY SPEAK TO BLACK COMMUNITIES COMMUNITIES BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IN TWO WAYS UNDERSTAND THIS IN TWO WAYS ONE IS THAT HE HAS TO CONNECT ONE IS THAT HE HAS TO CONNECT WITH BLACK VOTERS AND, TWO, HE WITH BLACK VOTERS AND, TWO, HE HAS TO BE SEEN AS SOMEONE WHO HAS TO BE SEEN AS SOMEONE WHO CAN DELIVER POLICY INITIATIVES CAN DELIVER POLICY INITIATIVES THAT WILL ADDRESS THE THAT WILL ADDRESS THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF BLACK CIRCUMSTANCES OF BLACK COMMUNITIES

COMMUNITIES THAT IS TO SAY THAT IT’S NOT THAT IS TO SAY THAT IT’S NOT JUST SIMPLY ABOUT APPEALING TO JUST SIMPLY ABOUT APPEALING TO EMOTION EMOTION >> PANDERING >> PANDERING

>> IT’S NOT PANDERING TO BLACK >> IT’S NOT PANDERING TO BLACK COMMUNITIES, IT’S ABOUT POLICIES COMMUNITIES, IT’S ABOUT POLICIES ON THE GROUND ON THE GROUND I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT GOING BACK TO OUR EARLIER GOING BACK TO OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION DISCUSSION WHEN WE USE THESE LABELS OF KEN WHEN WE USE THESE LABELS OF KEN TRYST AND CONSERVATIVE AND THE TRYST AND CONSERVATIVE AND THE LIKE, WE MIGHT BE OVERSTATING LIKE, WE MIGHT BE OVERSTATING THE MATTER

THE MATTER IT MIGHT VERY WILL BE THE CASE IT MIGHT VERY WILL BE THE CASE THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IS CHANGE IS CHANGE AND THAT WE’RE STILL IN A CHANGE AND THAT WE’RE STILL IN A CHANGE CYCLE AND THE IDEA OF POLITICAL CYCLE AND THE IDEA OF POLITICAL LABELS KIND OF DEFINING HOW WE LABELS KIND OF DEFINING HOW WE WANT CHANGE MAY ACTUALLY GET US WANT CHANGE MAY ACTUALLY GET US INTO SOME TROUBLE INTO SOME TROUBLE

AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE WHO’S LIBERAL, CENTRIST, WHO’S LIBERAL, CENTRIST, PROGRESSIVE, ALL OF THEM WANT PROGRESSIVE, ALL OF THEM WANT CHANGE CHANGE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF JOE BIDEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF JOE BIDEN DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT, IF PETE DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT, IF PETE BUTTIGIEG DOESN’T UNDERSTAND BUTTIGIEG DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT, IF ELIZABETH WARREN THAT, IF ELIZABETH WARREN DOESN’T, THEY’RE ALL GOING TO DOESN’T, THEY’RE ALL GOING TO FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE — WHERE — >> AND JIM VANDEHEI, AXIOS IS >> AND JIM VANDEHEI, AXIOS IS LOOKING AT AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN LOOKING AT AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN AS A FOCUS FOR DEMOCRATS AS A FOCUS FOR DEMOCRATS TELL US ABOUT IT

TELL US ABOUT IT >> YEAH >> YEAH I MEAN, THE LAST ELECTION YOU I MEAN, THE LAST ELECTION YOU HAD AFRICAN AMERICAN TURNOUT HAD AFRICAN AMERICAN TURNOUT DECREASE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECREASE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS, WHICH IS CONCERNING 20 YEARS, WHICH IS CONCERNING FOR DEMOCRATS FOR DEMOCRATS

AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAD 13% AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAD 13% OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN VOTE FOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN VOTE FOR TRUMP TRUMP I THINK IT WAS 4% OF I THINK IT WAS 4% OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN VOTED FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN VOTED FOR HIM HIM YOU HAVE A LOT OF CAMPAIGNS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CAMPAIGNS, BUTTIGIEG, BOOKER, OTHERS WHO BUTTIGIEG, BOOKER, OTHERS WHO ARE REACHING OUT SPECIFICALLY TO ARE REACHING OUT SPECIFICALLY TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN TO SEE IF AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN TO SEE IF THEY CAN CONNECT AND ALSO JACKUP THEY CAN CONNECT AND ALSO JACKUP TURNOUT, MAKE SURE IF THERE IS TURNOUT, MAKE SURE IF THERE IS HIGHER TURNOUT THAT HIGHER TURNOUT THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN ARE VOTING AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN ARE VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS

FOR DEMOCRATS AND I THINK WHAT EDDIE SAID WAS AND I THINK WHAT EDDIE SAID WAS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT I DO THINK THAT THE BIGGEST I DO THINK THAT THE BIGGEST INDICATOR OF WHO WINS INDICATOR OF WHO WINS NOMINATIONS, WHO WINS THE NOMINATIONS, WHO WINS THE PRESIDENCY, ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PRESIDENCY, ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST SORT OF COMFORTABLE IN ARE MOST SORT OF COMFORTABLE IN THEIR SKIN, WHO VOTERS HAVE ALL THEIR SKIN, WHO VOTERS HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES FEEL LIKE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES FEEL LIKE ARE THE REAL DEAL AND ARE AUTHENTIC THE REAL DEAL AND ARE AUTHENTIC

PEOPLE ARE MUCH EASIER TO SORT PEOPLE ARE MUCH EASIER TO SORT OF SHIFT THE SHAPE OF THEIR OF SHIFT THE SHAPE OF THEIR IDEOLOGY THAN WE MIGHT THINK IDEOLOGY THAN WE MIGHT THINK I THINK THAT WAS THE GREAT I THINK THAT WAS THE GREAT LESSON OF DONALD TRUMP LESSON OF DONALD TRUMP LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS REPUBLICANS NOW BELIEVE WE WOULD REPUBLICANS NOW BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT UNTHINKABLE FOUR OR HAVE THOUGHT UNTHINKABLE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO

FIVE YEARS AGO I DON’T KNOW THAT THAT DYNAMIC I DON’T KNOW THAT THAT DYNAMIC IS THAT MUCH DIFFERENT INSIDE IS THAT MUCH DIFFERENT INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IF THE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IF THE RIGHT PERSON CAN CONNECT AND CAN RIGHT PERSON CAN CONNECT AND CAN SEEM LIKE AN AUTHENTIC PERSON SEEM LIKE AN AUTHENTIC PERSON WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND LEAD TO WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND LEAD TO SOME SORT OF CHANGE SOME SORT OF CHANGE >> ALL RIGHT >> ALL RIGHT

JIM VANDEHEI, THANK YOU VERY JIM VANDEHEI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MUCH >> THANK YOU >> THANK YOU >>> COMING UP, FORMER WHITE >>> COMING UP, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL DON McGAHN

HOUSE COUNSEL DON McGAHN WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEW COURT WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEW COURT RULING RULING PLUS, CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER PLUS, CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER CALLED THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST CALLED THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST HIM A WITCH-HUNT HIM A WITCH-HUNT

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